i have been following with great interest the story of the young lady missing in Aruba. two locals were in court today and charged with homicide, however there has been no evidence of her death. the authorities can hold them for 8 more days while they continue to investigate.what i really found strange today is that the FBI dive team which had been dispatched to search local waters, has left Aruba WITHOUT doing a search, they never got wet. ......... this is mystifying.
Holloway is a straight-A student and a member of the National Honor Society.
Where is Natalee?
Where is Natalee?
lady cop wrote: i have been following with great interest the story of the young lady missing in Aruba. two locals were in court today and charged with homicide, however there has been no evidence of her death. the authorities can hold them for 8 more days while they continue to investigate.what i really found strange today is that the FBI dive team which had been dispatched to search local waters, has left Aruba WITHOUT doing a search, they never got wet. ......... this is mystifying.
Holloway is a straight-A student and a member of the National Honor Society.
I should say so. Do you have any insight (guesses?) on why the FBI divers didn't do anything?
Holloway is a straight-A student and a member of the National Honor Society.
I should say so. Do you have any insight (guesses?) on why the FBI divers didn't do anything?
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Where is Natalee?
the official FBI word is that the Aruban government refused to specify WHERE they should dive, so the team left the island today. --- there is also speculation in some quarters that she was kidnapped and taken to columbia for the slavery/prostitution trade.
Where is Natalee?
LC,
I had been thinking along this line from the start. There was that other girl back in 98 I think that went missing of a cruise ship. Has never been found to this day. There were sightings of her, and guess what she was seen at the same bar on ARUBA that Natalie was at. Then there was another sighting in Caracaus by a Military person I think. This guy said she told him her name "Abby" I think, and asked for his help.. which he did do, since he wasn't suppose to be at this brothel or what ever it was when on shore. Now don't quote me on all the fact about Abby I just caught the tail end of the story last night. :-3
there is also speculation in some quarters that she was kidnapped and taken to columbia for the slavery/prostitution trade.
I had been thinking along this line from the start. There was that other girl back in 98 I think that went missing of a cruise ship. Has never been found to this day. There were sightings of her, and guess what she was seen at the same bar on ARUBA that Natalie was at. Then there was another sighting in Caracaus by a Military person I think. This guy said she told him her name "Abby" I think, and asked for his help.. which he did do, since he wasn't suppose to be at this brothel or what ever it was when on shore. Now don't quote me on all the fact about Abby I just caught the tail end of the story last night. :-3
there is also speculation in some quarters that she was kidnapped and taken to columbia for the slavery/prostitution trade.
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Where is Natalee?
Carla, i know precisely what you are referring to. that girl has been missing for 7 years, she was 23 when she disappeared. anyone who thinks slave trade is fiction is naive. if Natalee's body is not on that 19 mile by 6 mile island which has been thoroughly seached, and is not in the water (we don't know that) then she left by boat.
Where is Natalee?
This sends shivers up the spine, and is the sort of thing you read in FICTION! That said, a friend of a friend (who I actually know, so this is true) went missing on the Dover to Calais ferry way way back in about 1976 - he has never turned up and is assumed to have fallen overboard and drowned, but no body has EVER been found.
Where is Natalee?
nobody has been let go, there are now 5 under arrest as of 0530 this morning......ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- Three more suspects have been arrested in connection with the disappearance of an 18-year-old Alabama student in Aruba, bringing to five the number of men in custody, a prosecutor said Thursday.
The three men just arrested were the last people seen with Natalee Holloway as she left the Oranjestad nightclub Carlos 'N Charlie's about 1:30 a.m. May 30, according to the chief prosecutor.
The three men just arrested were the last people seen with Natalee Holloway as she left the Oranjestad nightclub Carlos 'N Charlie's about 1:30 a.m. May 30, according to the chief prosecutor.
Where is Natalee?
there's been a confession. one has offered to lead police to her body. i do not know details yet. will come back when i know more.
Where is Natalee?
NEWS UPDATE ON NATALEE, SEEMS WE MAKE HAVE A BREAK IN THE CASE.. 
'Something Bad' Happened to Missing Girl, Suspect Says
Man Leading Aruba Police to Scene
By MICHAEL NORTON, AP
AP
Alabama high school graduate Natalee Holloway has been missing since May 30.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (June 11) - Police investigating the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in Aruba said late Friday that one of three young men in custody has admitted ''something bad happened'' to her during her island visit.
Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that the man was leading police late Friday to the scene. He refused to identify which of the three young men who took her to a beach the night she disappeared made the statement.Natalee Holloway, 18, vanished on May 30 during a five-day trip to the Caribbean island with 124 classmates and seven chaperones celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School, near Birmingham. Police found her U.S. passport and packed bags in her hotel room.
A relative said her family continues to believe she is alive. Rumors raging on the island that she is dead are ''an aggressive interpretation'' of what police are saying, Jar Twitty, the brother of Holloway's stepfather, told the AP.
Three men - two brothers from Suriname and a 17-year-old Dutch student - were arrested Thursday. Two former hotel security guards were also being held in the case. None of the five has been charged.
A lawyer for the two Surinamese - Satish Kalpoe, 18, and his brother Deepak, 21 - said they told police they took Holloway to Arashi Beach, on the northern tip of the island, in the early hours of May 30.
According to their police statement, they didn't get out of the car, defense lawyer David Kock said. Instead, Holloway and the Dutch teen, an honors student at Aruba International School, ''were in the back seat kissing.''
They also told police that they dropped Holloway at her Holiday Inn Hotel around 2 a.m. and last saw her being approached by a man in a security guard uniform before they drove off, Kock said.
The brothers told police the blond, blue-eyed young woman was drunk and refused to get out of the car when asked to, said Noraina Pietersz, who is representing 30-year-old Nick John, one of the two former guards.
The three young men said Holloway stumbled in the parking lot of the hotel but refused help from her Dutch escort, Kock said.
Holiday Inn employees say security cameras did not record Holloway's return. In addition, a Holiday Inn guard who worked the overnight shift the day the young woman disappeared said he did not see her, said Pietersz, who said she reviewed the guard's testimony to police.
In Mountain Brook, Holloway's aunt, Marcia Twitty, expressed frustration that Aruban authorities initially released the three young men last week after questioning them.
''These are the last three guys to be with her, and we just feel like they know something,'' said Twitty, who is serving as the spokeswoman.
The criticism came after Holloway's stepfather, George ''Jug'' Twitty, told the AP the young men told him that Holloway had been flirting with the Dutch student. Police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten said at a news conference that Holloway and the Dutch teen had met two days earlier at the casino of her hotel.
John and Abraham Jones, 28, a fellow former security guard, have been detained since Sunday.
'Something Bad' Happened to Missing Girl, Suspect Says
Man Leading Aruba Police to Scene
By MICHAEL NORTON, AP
AP
Alabama high school graduate Natalee Holloway has been missing since May 30.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (June 11) - Police investigating the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in Aruba said late Friday that one of three young men in custody has admitted ''something bad happened'' to her during her island visit.
Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that the man was leading police late Friday to the scene. He refused to identify which of the three young men who took her to a beach the night she disappeared made the statement.Natalee Holloway, 18, vanished on May 30 during a five-day trip to the Caribbean island with 124 classmates and seven chaperones celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School, near Birmingham. Police found her U.S. passport and packed bags in her hotel room.
A relative said her family continues to believe she is alive. Rumors raging on the island that she is dead are ''an aggressive interpretation'' of what police are saying, Jar Twitty, the brother of Holloway's stepfather, told the AP.
Three men - two brothers from Suriname and a 17-year-old Dutch student - were arrested Thursday. Two former hotel security guards were also being held in the case. None of the five has been charged.
A lawyer for the two Surinamese - Satish Kalpoe, 18, and his brother Deepak, 21 - said they told police they took Holloway to Arashi Beach, on the northern tip of the island, in the early hours of May 30.
According to their police statement, they didn't get out of the car, defense lawyer David Kock said. Instead, Holloway and the Dutch teen, an honors student at Aruba International School, ''were in the back seat kissing.''
They also told police that they dropped Holloway at her Holiday Inn Hotel around 2 a.m. and last saw her being approached by a man in a security guard uniform before they drove off, Kock said.
The brothers told police the blond, blue-eyed young woman was drunk and refused to get out of the car when asked to, said Noraina Pietersz, who is representing 30-year-old Nick John, one of the two former guards.
The three young men said Holloway stumbled in the parking lot of the hotel but refused help from her Dutch escort, Kock said.
Holiday Inn employees say security cameras did not record Holloway's return. In addition, a Holiday Inn guard who worked the overnight shift the day the young woman disappeared said he did not see her, said Pietersz, who said she reviewed the guard's testimony to police.
In Mountain Brook, Holloway's aunt, Marcia Twitty, expressed frustration that Aruban authorities initially released the three young men last week after questioning them.
''These are the last three guys to be with her, and we just feel like they know something,'' said Twitty, who is serving as the spokeswoman.
The criticism came after Holloway's stepfather, George ''Jug'' Twitty, told the AP the young men told him that Holloway had been flirting with the Dutch student. Police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten said at a news conference that Holloway and the Dutch teen had met two days earlier at the casino of her hotel.
John and Abraham Jones, 28, a fellow former security guard, have been detained since Sunday.
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Where is Natalee?
saturday morning.....FOX is denying the confession story. 
Where is Natalee?
I have not heard yet today what went on there last night...just that "something bad" had happened to her...How sad - but there will eventually be closure (sp?) if they did not put her in the water.. My heart goes out to the parents...and family. :-1
My heart goes out to the parents...and family. :-1~~The Family~~
Happiness is knowing where you come from...
Who you are...
And why you are here.....
Where is Natalee?
Aruban police are confirming she is dead, but will not divulge details.
Where is Natalee?
Bummer... how sad, now what the heck happened. I heard that they guy they are holding hav only said something bad has happened to her, they haven't confessed totally yet..
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Where is Natalee?
Scrat wrote: I read on AOL a few days ago that there was the son of a dutch politician involved.
i wonder if he'll try hiding/sheltering behind "diplomatic immunity"?
hope he has to face the music, so to speak.
i wonder if he'll try hiding/sheltering behind "diplomatic immunity"?
hope he has to face the music, so to speak.
Where is Natalee?
this just gets more and more strange.....
Natalee's Family Denies Reports of Found Body
Spokeswoman for Natalee Holloway's family says no corpse has been discovered, despite rumors
Natalee's Family Denies Reports of Found Body
Spokeswoman for Natalee Holloway's family says no corpse has been discovered, despite rumors
Where is Natalee?
posted by Scrat
I read on AOL a few days ago that there was the son of a dutch politician involved. Put that in with the islands concerns for its reputation and we know where this may be going.
Will we ever see justice?
Where might that be? Why would you assume the authorities are corrupt? I don't know whether that is a comment on the american justice system i.e. because a politicians son is involved there will be a cover up, or just a general assumption that foreigners are corrupt.
Given the dependance of tourism they can't not clear this up. They are holding two of the suspects for another eight days while they investigate further. What you won't see is the authorities making any statements as to how the case is proceeding until they charge someone. You should read press reports with a pinch of salt.
I read on AOL a few days ago that there was the son of a dutch politician involved. Put that in with the islands concerns for its reputation and we know where this may be going.
Will we ever see justice?
Where might that be? Why would you assume the authorities are corrupt? I don't know whether that is a comment on the american justice system i.e. because a politicians son is involved there will be a cover up, or just a general assumption that foreigners are corrupt.
Given the dependance of tourism they can't not clear this up. They are holding two of the suspects for another eight days while they investigate further. What you won't see is the authorities making any statements as to how the case is proceeding until they charge someone. You should read press reports with a pinch of salt.
Where is Natalee?
the poor mother here is sure the 3 young guys in custody are lying and the security guards innocent. further, the stories of the three young men have changed and now diametrically oppose each other. they are trying to throw each other under the bus. ...............
Lawyers File For Release Of Guards In Holloway Case
Holloway's Mother Says Security Guards Are Innocent
POSTED: 8:07 am EDT June 13, 2005
UPDATED: 12:29 pm EDT June 13, 2005
ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Lawyers are filing motions Monday demanding a court free two security guards whose innocence was declared by the mother of a missing Alabama teenager.
"The prosecution is pretending it has information we don't have," said one of the lawyers.
The mother of the missing 18-year-old Alabama girl says she's seen the former guards and thinks "they are being wrongly held."
Also Monday, the family said Natalee Holloway's stepfather plans to organize a new search for the teen who disappeared May 30.
In an interview with the "Today Show" on Monday, Beth Holloway Twitty, mother of the missing girl, said that she is frustrated with the apparent lack of progress in determining the fate of her daughter.
"Well, I don’t know if I can say I’m frustrated with the Aruban government," said Holloway Twitty. "I think I am frustrated as a mother, as any individual would (be), that I still do not have my daughter, that I still do not feel like I am any further along in finding my daughter than I was on May 30 when my flight landed here. So, I think that is my frustration."
Holloway Twitty said the three suspects "hold the key" to her daughter's whereabouts.
"Those are the last three men that were with my daughter," she said. "They know what they did with her, and they know where she is."
She said Aruban authorities should pressure the young men to reveal what they know, but she would not say what she thinks the boys may have done or whether she thinks her daughter is still alive.
Holloway Twitty said that a nagging thought in the back of her mind said the Aruban government is protecting the three students. As she put it, it's up to the Aruban authorities to assure her "that will not be an issue."
Holloway Twitty said she appreciates all that Aruban authorities have done but added that she won't be satisfied until they give her back her daughter. She said, "I want her and I want her now."
She also said she thinks two former hotel security guards detained in connection with Holloway's disappearance are innocent and should be released.
Lawyers for all five detained men insist their clients are innocent, and no one has been charged. Prime Minister Nelson Oduber went on national television Sunday night to reaffirm Aruba's commitment to solving the case.
Holloway Twitty said she would not leave Aruba until her daughter is found. She said that her daughter is in "everyone's heart because she's everyone's daughter."
Lawyers File For Release Of Guards In Holloway Case
Holloway's Mother Says Security Guards Are Innocent
POSTED: 8:07 am EDT June 13, 2005
UPDATED: 12:29 pm EDT June 13, 2005
ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Lawyers are filing motions Monday demanding a court free two security guards whose innocence was declared by the mother of a missing Alabama teenager.
"The prosecution is pretending it has information we don't have," said one of the lawyers.
The mother of the missing 18-year-old Alabama girl says she's seen the former guards and thinks "they are being wrongly held."
Also Monday, the family said Natalee Holloway's stepfather plans to organize a new search for the teen who disappeared May 30.
In an interview with the "Today Show" on Monday, Beth Holloway Twitty, mother of the missing girl, said that she is frustrated with the apparent lack of progress in determining the fate of her daughter.
"Well, I don’t know if I can say I’m frustrated with the Aruban government," said Holloway Twitty. "I think I am frustrated as a mother, as any individual would (be), that I still do not have my daughter, that I still do not feel like I am any further along in finding my daughter than I was on May 30 when my flight landed here. So, I think that is my frustration."
Holloway Twitty said the three suspects "hold the key" to her daughter's whereabouts.
"Those are the last three men that were with my daughter," she said. "They know what they did with her, and they know where she is."
She said Aruban authorities should pressure the young men to reveal what they know, but she would not say what she thinks the boys may have done or whether she thinks her daughter is still alive.
Holloway Twitty said that a nagging thought in the back of her mind said the Aruban government is protecting the three students. As she put it, it's up to the Aruban authorities to assure her "that will not be an issue."
Holloway Twitty said she appreciates all that Aruban authorities have done but added that she won't be satisfied until they give her back her daughter. She said, "I want her and I want her now."
She also said she thinks two former hotel security guards detained in connection with Holloway's disappearance are innocent and should be released.
Lawyers for all five detained men insist their clients are innocent, and no one has been charged. Prime Minister Nelson Oduber went on national television Sunday night to reaffirm Aruba's commitment to solving the case.
Holloway Twitty said she would not leave Aruba until her daughter is found. She said that her daughter is in "everyone's heart because she's everyone's daughter."
Where is Natalee?
the Aruban government is so concerned about these allegations that they brought in a judge from out of the country. they are worried sick over the tourism ramifications. but the mom is saying she is not trusting the local authorities. that they have not been forthcoming with the family, in fact have been jerking them around.
Where is Natalee?
I agree something just not right.
The blanket statement by the three men that saw her last just pissed me off "SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENED TO HER." Well no **** Sherlock, and what exactly did happen to her. :-5
I agree with the MOM they are getting jerked around. They know way more than they are tell her parents. Seem they are trying to cover for the Dutch kid, and diplomatic amunity. SOMETHING JUST NOT RIGHT.
The blanket statement by the three men that saw her last just pissed me off "SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENED TO HER." Well no **** Sherlock, and what exactly did happen to her. :-5
I agree with the MOM they are getting jerked around. They know way more than they are tell her parents. Seem they are trying to cover for the Dutch kid, and diplomatic amunity. SOMETHING JUST NOT RIGHT.
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Where is Natalee?
a couple new developments on tuesday...the two security guards have been released. and one of them is talking to the press, mickey john said that he talked to one of the three still in custody, who said they never took Natalee back to the hotel. he didn't admit anything to him, but the three are telling divergent stories now and trying to implicate each other...which is usually the beginning of getting someone to tell the truth and roll over on the other.
Where is Natalee?
posted by scrat
One of the punks is a politicians son. We know what happens in these cases.
What is that? Why do you assume the local authorities are corrupt? At this point you don't know what happened-it's not as though beating a confession out of them would be constructive it wouldn't stand up in court they have to get it by other means-assuming the three kids did actually do something, at this point you don't know what happened.
posted by carla
I agree with the MOM they are getting jerked around. They know way more than they are tell her parents. Seem they are trying to cover for the Dutch kid, and diplomatic amunity. SOMETHING JUST NOT RIGHT.
Why would they tell the mother anything? They can't say anything until they charge someone and even then they won't until the trial otherwise they jeopardise their case. What has diplomatic immunity got to do with anything? Aruba is Dutch, the politician is dutch, even if it were a foreign country it's highly unlikely the dutch would allow one of their diplomats to claim diplomatic immunity for a capital offence like murder and it's the SON of a politician not the politician himself.
One of the punks is a politicians son. We know what happens in these cases.
What is that? Why do you assume the local authorities are corrupt? At this point you don't know what happened-it's not as though beating a confession out of them would be constructive it wouldn't stand up in court they have to get it by other means-assuming the three kids did actually do something, at this point you don't know what happened.
posted by carla
I agree with the MOM they are getting jerked around. They know way more than they are tell her parents. Seem they are trying to cover for the Dutch kid, and diplomatic amunity. SOMETHING JUST NOT RIGHT.
Why would they tell the mother anything? They can't say anything until they charge someone and even then they won't until the trial otherwise they jeopardise their case. What has diplomatic immunity got to do with anything? Aruba is Dutch, the politician is dutch, even if it were a foreign country it's highly unlikely the dutch would allow one of their diplomats to claim diplomatic immunity for a capital offence like murder and it's the SON of a politician not the politician himself.
Where is Natalee?
the three young men who were with her that night, and who are still in custody, are turning on each other. their original stories are falling apart. and based on what has been revealed so far, the authorities are at this moment doing an intensive search near the hotel, in deep scrub. they are also draining a pond. a civilian searcher today found panties and a condom in the area. ~~~~~~~~~they are searching off the beach as well.
An area near an Aruba beachfront hotel was cordoned off by police and apparently being searched Tuesday, more than two weeks after an Alabama teenager disappeared. Meanwhile, the mother of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway told CNN Tuesday she believes the investigation into her daughter's disappearance was "proceeding forward."
An area near an Aruba beachfront hotel was cordoned off by police and apparently being searched Tuesday, more than two weeks after an Alabama teenager disappeared. Meanwhile, the mother of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway told CNN Tuesday she believes the investigation into her daughter's disappearance was "proceeding forward."
Where is Natalee?
again, nothing. ..........i am rather struck by the fact that the three young men currently in custody were questioned initially and then let go with no impounding of their vehicle, no seizing of their clothing, this is against all precepts of investigation! they admitted to being the last to see her, that is where the investigation begins! those three had 11 days clear to destroy evidence and concoct a story. but now their stories diverge into the self-serving. i am sorry to say i think the Aruban police dropped the ball at the outset.
A search near an Aruba beachfront hotel that began Tuesday afternoon has ended with apparently no new clues in the search for 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the Alabama student missing since May 30.
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• Mom: 'Boys know what happened'
• CNN Access: John: Suspect 'holding back'
A search near an Aruba beachfront hotel that began Tuesday afternoon has ended with apparently no new clues in the search for 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the Alabama student missing since May 30.
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• Mom: 'Boys know what happened'
• CNN Access: John: Suspect 'holding back'
Where is Natalee?
friday--------ORANJESTAD, Aruba  Authorities in Aruba arrested a fourth man in connection with the disappearance of missing Alabama honors student Natalee Holloway, officials said.
The new person detained is a 26-year-old friend of Joran van der Sloot , who was with Holloway the night she disappeared, sources said. The attorney general's office identified him only by the initials S.G.C.
The new person detained is a 26-year-old friend of Joran van der Sloot , who was with Holloway the night she disappeared, sources said. The attorney general's office identified him only by the initials S.G.C.
Where is Natalee?
The Aruban police bungled the WHOLE thing from the start! OMG.....
Like we all know.....they didn't search the car......there goes any kind of legitimate DNA. It's sickening!
I'm sure that poor girl is in 10 feet of water........offshore.
Carla.....let's win this week's lottary and get down there.
We'll borrow LC's black & white sea cruiser......
I think we'd do a better job than the police. It's pretty obvious that everyone of those kids KNOWS what happened...
xxxxxooooooo
mama
Like we all know.....they didn't search the car......there goes any kind of legitimate DNA. It's sickening!
I'm sure that poor girl is in 10 feet of water........offshore.
Carla.....let's win this week's lottary and get down there.
We'll borrow LC's black & white sea cruiser......
I think we'd do a better job than the police. It's pretty obvious that everyone of those kids KNOWS what happened...
xxxxxooooooo
mama
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Where is Natalee?
I totally agree LoveMama..that she is in the water... pretty sad. The Aruban authorities really screwed this up good. I think they have jerking the family around from the start. When I saw that tv interview with the president of Aruba, I could just tell he was being snaky...sort of like an Eddie Haskel...lol
Nature laughs Last
Where is Natalee?
One of the chief suspects is a JUDGE'S SON! Gee....I wonder if that has anything to do with the inability of the police to find the body? (sarcastic)
Look...it's pretty obvious to me that there's a cover-up in progress. Why would we need a cover-up? Because the girl's dead.
Let's see, it probably went down like this:
"Let's go over to the beach"
"No, I have to get home."
"C'mon, it'll just take a second."
Later..
"Hold her dude!"
"She's struggling!"
"Smack"
"Dude I think you hit her too hard!"
Oh no! She's not breathing!"
"Damn, we're in trouble now, let's roll her into the ocean."
"Now let's get out of here and nobody says anything, right?"
"right."
Look...it's pretty obvious to me that there's a cover-up in progress. Why would we need a cover-up? Because the girl's dead.
Let's see, it probably went down like this:
"Let's go over to the beach"
"No, I have to get home."
"C'mon, it'll just take a second."
Later..
"Hold her dude!"
"She's struggling!"
"Smack"
"Dude I think you hit her too hard!"
Oh no! She's not breathing!"
"Damn, we're in trouble now, let's roll her into the ocean."
"Now let's get out of here and nobody says anything, right?"
"right."
All the world's a stage and the men and women merely players...Shakespeare
Where is Natalee?
TW2005 wrote: It may or may have not happened like this, but I do think it is a shame you have to post something like this.
Absolutely not, you can't see my expression...I am seriously pissed off. I think it's a terrible crime and although I think it may have been a "prank" that went horribly wrong, I still think that the jerks who killed her should get the book thrown at them.
I posted that I think the kids are getting away with murder thanks to the protection of the "judge dad" of one of them. I want some justice!
Do you think it's funny?
I guess you missed the part where I posted the word SARCASTIC. What....did you actually think I was condoning it? Reread my post, I'm mad as Hell.
Imagine if it happened a kid in your class that you teach. Then would you say things like this?
You bet, I will always push for criminals to get the maximum, even if the death was accidental. I still believe, though, that this is a date rape gone wrong. Either way, slam those jerks!
Absolutely not, you can't see my expression...I am seriously pissed off. I think it's a terrible crime and although I think it may have been a "prank" that went horribly wrong, I still think that the jerks who killed her should get the book thrown at them.
I posted that I think the kids are getting away with murder thanks to the protection of the "judge dad" of one of them. I want some justice!
Do you think it's funny?
I guess you missed the part where I posted the word SARCASTIC. What....did you actually think I was condoning it? Reread my post, I'm mad as Hell.
Imagine if it happened a kid in your class that you teach. Then would you say things like this?
You bet, I will always push for criminals to get the maximum, even if the death was accidental. I still believe, though, that this is a date rape gone wrong. Either way, slam those jerks!
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Where is Natalee?
interesting developments.........especially the texas search team. Holloway's Family Wants Evidence
Relatives of 18-year-old missing in Aruba prepare lawsuit to demand info, hire Texas search team
Relatives of 18-year-old missing in Aruba prepare lawsuit to demand info, hire Texas search team
Where is Natalee?
TW....this isn't any of my business - but honestly I truely believe Jives is accurate..So many times things get out of hand and someone is hurt...I- for one, think he nailed it on the head...On several posts, I have been wrong - but I do believe what he wrote and what he believes are just a way of saying how he feels.. This is a forum, and we do have the right to voice our opinions and say what we feel ~ Knowing how Jives posts, and that he is a compationate man - he would never step out of bounds unless he beleives he is accurate - I don't believe he stepped any where near the "boundary" with his statement....JMO :-6
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Where is Natalee?
once i wrote a very graphic scenario about how i thought a murder went down, in detail. (on another forum.) the family of the killer actually saw it and complained to admin, asked to have it removed. and it was. :yh_chickn ....as it turned out, the scenario was exactly as i had described. it all came out in confession and court. i still don't have a real handle on what happened to Natalee, but Jives may well be close. murder isn't pretty. and yes, some people may be sensitive to reading details. i can understand that. some of us are pretty jaded unfortunately.
Where is Natalee?
Hmmm...upon consideration, perhaps my little story was in bad taste, sorry about that. I wrote it in the heat of emotion and forgot to consider the impact it might have on people.
I have WAY too much imagination for my own good.
I have WAY too much imagination for my own good.
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mominiowa wrote: TW....this isn't any of my business - but honestly I truely believe Jives is accurate..So many times things get out of hand and someone is hurt...I- for one, think he nailed it on the head...On several posts, I have been wrong - but I do believe what he wrote and what he believes are just a way of saying how he feels.. This is a forum, and we do have the right to voice our opinions and say what we feel ~ Knowing how Jives posts, and that he is a compationate man - he would never step out of bounds unless he beleives he is accurate - I don't believe he stepped any where near the "boundary" with his statement....JMO :-6
Agree totally.
Jives' scenario is probably very close to the mark. No question of his comments overstepping the mark.
As time goes by it is becoming more and more difficult to believe that Natalee will be found alive.
Agree totally.
Jives' scenario is probably very close to the mark. No question of his comments overstepping the mark.
As time goes by it is becoming more and more difficult to believe that Natalee will be found alive.
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I agree to--Jives meant no harm. Too many things are taken literally and out of context on a message board....I can see how TW feels too as what Jives wrote was sensitive however it was just putting thoughts down--thoughts/scenerios that run through our heads in the face of a mystery like this. I dont' think Jives crossed any boundaries, however I didn't mind hearing TW's view on this as this is how we all get to know each other!!
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Where is Natalee?
Yeah...what Robin said! 
All the world's a stage and the men and women merely players...Shakespeare
Where is Natalee?
Jives wrote: Hmmm...upon consideration, perhaps my little story was in bad taste, sorry about that. I wrote it in the heat of emotion and forgot to consider the impact it might have on people.
I have WAY too much imagination for my own good. :oHmmm...I think a good imagination is always a good thing. As for the scenario itself, it WAS shocking. I really don't see anything wrong with that, either. Too often people hear these stories and say, "Wow...another kid missing, hope they find her." And we are "numb" to it. Being numb to these things is NOT acceptable. It's a comment on our society, that says it's commonplace, normal, run-of-the-mill. To me, Jives story made it not so run-of-the-mill. It brought it home, made it real. It should be very real. To all of us.
I have WAY too much imagination for my own good. :oHmmm...I think a good imagination is always a good thing. As for the scenario itself, it WAS shocking. I really don't see anything wrong with that, either. Too often people hear these stories and say, "Wow...another kid missing, hope they find her." And we are "numb" to it. Being numb to these things is NOT acceptable. It's a comment on our society, that says it's commonplace, normal, run-of-the-mill. To me, Jives story made it not so run-of-the-mill. It brought it home, made it real. It should be very real. To all of us.
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Where is Natalee?
the father of the young dutch boy is now under arrest (this is the judge in training) ................
Teen's Dad Arrested
Paul van der Sloot held in connection with Natalee Holloway case in Aruba
Teen's Dad Arrested
Paul van der Sloot held in connection with Natalee Holloway case in Aruba
Where is Natalee?
saturday the team of experienced professionals from Texas will begin their intensive search, they have brought sidescan sonar and are flying bloodhounds in. this group has a very high success rate. .................
Aruba Authorities Detail Murder Suspicions
Aruba Authorities Detail Murder Suspicions
Where is Natalee?
lady cop wrote: saturday the team of experienced professionals from Texas will begin their intensive search, they have brought sidescan sonar and are flying bloodhounds in. this group has a very high success rate. .................
Aruba Authorities Detail Murder Suspicions
LC...........honestly, tell us what your take on this is!
I agree with Jives. Something that wasn't meant to happen, happened!
Definitely drugs involved, they're all over the Island. :-5
Reason guy who worked on party boat was arrested was he's obviously a drug dealer....and probably sold drugs to the kids.
I don't think the two brothers were responsible but definitely know what happened!
I pray to God one of these guys will come out with the truth!
xxxxoo
mama
Aruba Authorities Detail Murder Suspicions
LC...........honestly, tell us what your take on this is!
I agree with Jives. Something that wasn't meant to happen, happened!
Definitely drugs involved, they're all over the Island. :-5
Reason guy who worked on party boat was arrested was he's obviously a drug dealer....and probably sold drugs to the kids.
I don't think the two brothers were responsible but definitely know what happened!
I pray to God one of these guys will come out with the truth!
xxxxoo
mama