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It's English, it's out of budgetary control, it's already overpriced by a factor of ten, the rug needs pulling out from under the bloated profiteer designers and contractors. Then we should jail a few people for fraud to warn off the next set of incompetents.

It's called High Speed 2.

It consists of a single rail line from London to Manchester with a spur to Leeds. That's 350 miles.

The current budget in today's money is £55 billion.

That's around £160 million ($200 million) a mile, which is insane profiteering on a criminal scale.

It's enough money to build a new canal between the Pacific and the Atlantic twice over.

More to the point it's enough to fully build and staff a permanent British Lunar Outpost.

It's as bad as the nonsense price for the Hinckley Point reactor replacement.

I think the UK has forgotten how to design anything at all cost-effectively. Perhaps it would help if all design teams were limited to charging no more than cost.
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Not to worry there's that £350 million a week being saved by leaving the EU and then there's the sell off of nthe NHS assets thatwill raise a bob or two. All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds. Once London ceases to be a financial centre will people stop wanting to live in london?

UK suspended payments from £3bn EU development fund days after Brexit vote | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Payments from a £3bn European development fund were suspended indefinitely by the UK Government, just days after the vote to leave the EU, The Independent can reveal.

In a move that exposes the almost immediate impact of Brexit on the UK economy, businesses say they have been told they will not now receive money that was due to be paid out under the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF).

The fund, designed to promote economic growth, has to be matched by payments from member states and there was speculation the UK Treasury may be concerned about whether the Government can afford to continue paying its share, particularly if it had to meet any shortfall for schemes which extend into the post-Brexit period.


Licky we now have all that spare cash
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I have never ever understood the need for land based passenger movement over such a route.

Now.......a freight line that moves commodities, raw and finished materials from one end of the country to the other, with a strategically placed depots for local distribution/collection, so shifting it ALL off the road system makes perfect sense to me.
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Bruv;1499141 wrote: I have never ever understood the need for land based passenger movement over such a route.

Now.......a freight line that moves commodities, raw and finished materials from one end of the country to the other, with a strategically placed depots for local distribution/collection, so shifting it ALL off the road system makes perfect sense to me.


Actually they do already when viable but the reality is you need road transport both to deliver from those depots to and pick up loads to be taken to them. Go on the M6 late at night and there are convoys of lorries taking stuff down to distribition depots for redelivery or to the ports. A single lorry might have 40 or so different pallets each going to different destinations doing it by rail is just not feasable.
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gmc;1499214 wrote: Actually they do already when viable but the reality is you need road transport both to deliver from those depots to and pick up loads to be taken to them. Go on the M6 late at night and there are convoys of lorries taking stuff down to distribition depots for redelivery or to the ports. A single lorry might have 40 or so different pallets each going to different destinations doing it by rail is just not feasable.


Why ?

Relocate the depots onto the railway, distribute from there with local lorries taking over. A dedicated freight railway line has to be better than a public road, they are blocked and hammered by the heavy weight slow moving fume spewing road greedy juggernauts. A railway line running from Channel Tunnel right up the spine of the UK to keep the bulk of it off the motor ways.

It's OK you will be retiring soon, it will take a few years to build anyway.
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