Fivers

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:49 am

Someone's worked out how many cows have been used to make all the new fivers in circulation.

A Very Precise Calculation of Exactly How Many Cows Are Being Murdered to Make the New Fivers

Half a cow, distributed evenly across 329 million banknotes.

That is not a lot of dead cows, given that the UK eats 2.6 million cows every year and the £5 banknote production has already peaked.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:26 pm

spot;1503162 wrote: Someone's worked out how many cows have been used to make all the new fivers in circulation.

A Very Precise Calculation of Exactly How Many Cows Are Being Murdered to Make the New Fivers

Half a cow, distributed evenly across 329 million banknotes.

That is not a lot of dead cows, given that the UK eats 2.6 million cows every year and the £5 banknote production has already peaked.

I always thought thee tallow was more associated with sheep than cows and could be extracted from the wool as well as from the fat.

Talking about the fat, the guy's calculations are totally wrong as they assume that all of the cow's fat in the offcuts is tallow

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:45 pm

Wonder if the cows are halal ?

Some people have far too much time on their hands.

And Bryn.......think that's lanolin ?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:13 pm

Bruv;1503167 wrote: Wonder if the cows are halal ?

Some people have far too much time on their hands.

And Bryn.......think that's lanolin ?

Oops - you are, of course, perfectly correct.

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:40 pm

I quote from the BBC breaking news feed - Bank of England says its supplier is working on "potential solutions" to the issue of animal fat in new £5 note.

One aspect is they'd have to withdraw every tainted note in circulation, all 329 million of them, while issuing redesigned replacements.

I don't see that happening, do you?

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:37 pm

Bruv;1503167 wrote: Wonder if the cows are halal ?

Similar to what is kosher. It depends on how the cow is slaughtered.

BTW, it is impossible to MURDER a cow.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:39 pm

Shearers have the softest hands.

We have a new fiver. Its plastic and has a clear window. But all our money is plastic now.

As far as banknotes go though, they are kind of pretty.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:41 pm

tude dog;1503178 wrote: Similar to what is kosher. It depends on how the cow is slaughtered.

BTW, it is impossible to MURDER a cow.

Does a cow understand 'intent' ?

Post by **spot** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:20 am

Hindus have no concept of Kosher or Halal, they just treat cows as divine.

The fact that the English language and English-derived law excludes non-humans from the concept of murder is a defect in the English language and English-derived law, not a fault of the cow. In Indian law it is illegal to murder any god, especially a cow.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:45 am

spot;1503194 wrote: Hindus have no concept of Kosher or Halal, they just treat cows as divine.

The fact that the English language and English-derived law excludes non-humans from the concept of murder is a defect in the English language and English-derived law, not a fault of the cow. In Indian law it is illegal to murder any god, especially a cow.

Youre in England, under English law and culture. Why would what hindus think concern you?

Post by **spot** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:53 am

The 2011 Census recorded 806,199 Hindus living in England and they're obliged by law to accept £5 notes as legal tender. Some have a profound religious objection to making use of the byproducts of slaughtered cattle. In what way might that not be my concern?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:30 am

spot;1503194 wrote: Hindus have no concept of Kosher or Halal, they just treat cows as divine.

Hindus have no concept of a variant from their own belief ?

I think you under estimate them.

After I made that comment, I discovered Katie Hopkins made a similar twitter post.......................I am going to wash my mouth out and get some counseling.

Post by **spot** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:25 am

I think my phrasing was meant to convey that Hindu religious practice has no equivalent to Kosher or Halal. Whether anyone actually understands what the function of Kosher or Halal is, regardless of their own religious or cultural heritage, is doubtful though many people have made guesses. Genital mutilation falls into that same category. I disapprove of placating non-existent supreme beings by adhering to prehistoric taboos.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:37 pm

spot;1503198 wrote: The 2011 Census recorded 806,199 Hindus living in England and they're obliged by law to accept £5 notes as legal tender. Some have a profound religious objection to making use of the byproducts of slaughtered cattle. In what way might that not be my concern?

First world prpblem maybe?...... what happened in India with their banknotes would be a lot more concerning.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:43 pm

Now i wamt to know what our banknotes are made out of.

When i was in Melbourne the train passed the banknote mint..... i now want to know what three sets of razor wire electric fencing is actually protecting....... has to be more than animal guts.

Guppers · Post by **Guppers** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:29 pm

:-2:-2:-2Im shocked! I thought money was made out of paper.....wow.....mind blowed...

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:03 am

Guppers;1503250 wrote: :-2:-2:-2Im shocked! I thought money was made out of paper.....wow.....mind blowed...
Actually, it was previously made of cloth, not paper.

I'm still wondering how anyone can murder half a cow?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:57 am

FourPart;1503493 wrote: Actually, it was previously made of cloth, not paper.

I'm still wondering how anyone can murder half a cow?

Hmmm

[pedant mode]

Linen paper as opposed to wood pulp paper maybe but not cloth.

[/pedant mode]

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:44 am

If we all stopped using money, we'd have taken a major collective step toward social justice. Revoking the fivers would be a start.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:48 am

I have tried that..............then they threatened to turn off the gas and electric, and the super market wouldn't let me leave before the police arrived.

I am in court next week......there might be costs involved.

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:21 am

Bruv;1503520 wrote: I am in court next week......there might be costs involved.

You will presumably refuse to pay them as a matter of principle.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:18 pm

spot;1503531 wrote: You will presumably refuse to pay them as a matter of principle.

Of course.

I am using you as my character reference.

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:47 pm

Blimey. That'll add three months to the sentence then.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:01 am

Listening to you English Chaps is quite entertaining , especially when one of you says " Blimey."

Post by **spot** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:26 pm

It is, on this side of the Atlantic, considered an extreme oath by which people swear. It's an abbreviated form of "may God strike me blind me if what I have said is false". King John usually swore by God's Teeth but he was not a model for the nation.

Back in the bible [1] a man would conventionally swear while gripping the other fellow's testicles to prove good faith, so our cultural standards have definitely progressed.

[1]: Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: and I will make thee swear by the Lord, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:11 pm

If we're going to get rid of money we'll have to barter.

I reckon one day of my work is worth about half a cow.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:25 pm

Mickiel;1503610 wrote: Listening to you English Chaps is quite entertaining , especially when one of you says " Blimey."

I am not a chap.

I'm a bloke.

Chaps are what cowboys wear.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:56 am

Bruv;1503614 wrote: I am not a chap.

I'm a bloke.

Chaps are what cowboys wear.
They're also sores.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:01 pm

FourPart;1503661 wrote: They're also sores.

You get sores if you don't wear chaps.......maybe the name is related ?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:13 pm

FourPart;1503661 wrote: They're also sores.

I know it as a verb but I've never seen it used as a noun.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:19 pm

Bryn Mawr;1503665 wrote: I know it as a verb but I've never seen it used as a noun.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chap

Post by **spot** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:22 pm

FourPart;1503667 wrote: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chap

One occasionally sees running sores.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:13 pm

spot;1503669 wrote: One occasionally sees running sores.

And running............chaps and blokes.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:35 pm

FourPart;1503667 wrote: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chap

Oh, I don't doubt that the noun exists - it's just that I've never seen it used.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:59 pm

Bruv;1503670 wrote: And running............chaps and blokes.

Blimey, a bunch of blokes. Its like a whole new language.

Post by **spot** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:18 am

Bryn Mawr;1503672 wrote: Oh, I don't doubt that the noun exists - it's just that I've never seen it used.

I had a pressure ulcer from a crush injury once which ate through muscle down to the bone before it was mended. If the cause had been being bedbound it would have been called a bedsore.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:31 am

On a more serious note the english £20 note has Adam Smith on it. Why not an english economist like milton Keynes? because he's not fashionable at the moment in this time if recession

I think Smith would be birling in his grave at the way his theories are used in this day and age to justify so much misery.

Post by **spot** » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:13 am

Golly. Intransigence from the Bank of England.The new £5 note will not be withdrawn, despite concerns that it contains traces of animal fat, the Bank of England says.

The Bank said it had concluded it would be "appropriate" to keep the £5 polymer note in circulation.

It will also issue the £10 polymer note as planned in September, it added.

New £5 note: Bank to keep note despite animal fat content - BBC News