So lets suppose....

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:24 am

Okay..we know it's bad.

What could be the possible consequences? What do you suppose COULD happen to Parliament? Say...if the Queen dissolves it? Or lets go even further and out of the box.

What would happen if Europe takes over at Parliament level? Can the Lords function without the Commons? In other words..what COULD happen? Is Britain ready for a president?:-3

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:32 am

I wouldnt want them Eurocrats in my Parliament. That would just mean swapping one lot of greedy buggers for some others.

I want the Queen to put on her armour and take up her sword. Together we can chase those self serving MPs down Whitehall and choral them into Trafalgar Square. Let Nelson look down on them in disgust

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:37 am

Snowfire;1188637 wrote: I wouldnt want them Eurocrats in my Parliament. That would just mean swapping one lot of greedy buggers for some others.

I want the Queen to put on her armour and take up her sword. Together we can chase those self serving MPs down Whitehall and choral them into Trafalgar Square. Let Nelson look down on them in disgust

And may the fleas of a thousand camals infest their gonads and their arms be too short to scratch.

Post by **spot** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:37 am

if it ever came to my being asked, I'd vote to dismantle the Westminster level of government entirely and rely on my representation at Brussels. Europe as a whole should be a sovereign entity with one voice, one currency and one foreign policy.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:43 am

Raven;1188629 wrote: Okay..we know it's bad.

What could be the possible consequences? What do you suppose COULD happen to Parliament? Say...if the Queen dissolves it? Or lets go even further and out of the box.

What would happen if Europe takes over at Parliament level? Can the Lords function without the Commons? In other words..what COULD happen? Is Britain ready for a president?:-3

It wouldn't help, our Congressmen and senators are just as corrupt or worse than yours.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu May 14, 2009 11:12 pm

I hardly think your going to see the end of Westminster as an institution. It has survived a lot in its history and adapted itself to all manner of social, economic, military, and political changes, it will do so again.

What I think will happen over the longer term (all things being equal and barring disasters) is that the UK will become more properly regionalized and the Westminister Parliament will revert back to what it originally was, which was the Parliament of the lords and commons of England. Scotland will be independent, while Wales and N. Ireland will be more devolved than they are at present, or perhaps in the extreme case even fully detached (though its hard to see that with N. Ireland, which couldn't really exist without the Union).

The EU will gradually become a more fully political confederation of the Nation States of Europe, with the individual countries of the current UK, and Ireland becoming a regional block within that, a bit like the way most of Scandinanvia is. Either that or the UK will completely seceed from the EU and, I dunno, go off on a madcap roller coster ride across the atlantic or something.

I am not sure that at the moment this is really the end of civilization, there is just a very febrile atmosphere in the U.K. I am not sure this is going to mean the end of British democracy, its just a bad scandal, coming at a time when the population are already punch drunk from the credit crunch, a government that's been too long in office, and various follies that have come home to roost. Give it a few months and see where it is then.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu May 14, 2009 11:15 pm

YZGI;1188645 wrote: It wouldn't help, our Congressmen and senators are just as corrupt or worse than yours.

Yeah, what happened to that mental dude from Illinois, what was his name Super-Corrupto or something, he was so corrupt its almost like that is his superhero power!

By the way, our lot are just as bad, well some of them, we just haven't worked out where all the money is yet.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri May 15, 2009 1:47 am

What's gone wrong is that being an MP has become a carer with back bencher toeing the party line in order to get up the slippery pole with no one prepared to go against the party whips for that reason. At any point Tony Blair could have been held to account, gordon brown can be chucked out with a vote of no confidence-maybe he will now labour MP's are beginning to realise what a disaster he is being for their futures. It's been suggested that cross party committees be given more say and power in drawing up legislation.

The parties themselves and their funding need sorted out as well. Both have lost their way. Maggie-destroyed the tory party-tony blair destroyed the labour party-all gordon brown has done is bury it deeper. there too much emphasis on the leader and their view and not enough grass roots say. How do labour elect a new leader-anyone know.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:37 am

gmc;1189041 wrote: . How do labour elect a new leader-anyone know. Yes, but i'm not wasting my brain cells in thought mode about the Labour Party any further.

Although i still wouldn't say no to GB.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:45 am

oscar;1189098 wrote: Yes, but i'm not wasting my brain cells in thought mode about the Labour Party any further.

Although i still wouldn't say no to GB.

You have very low standards. Its like me saying I wouldnt say no to Margeret Becket. :-2

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:48 am

Snowfire;1189102 wrote: You have very low standards. Its like me saying I wouldnt say no to Margeret Becket. :-2 I can just imagine you in a love tryst with Hazel Blears :yh_rotfl

Gordon is sexy in a disturbing Scottish grumpy type way :wah:

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:53 am

oscar;1189104 wrote: I can just imagine you in a love tryst with Hazel Blears :yh_rotfl

Gordon is sexy in a disturbing Scottish grumpy type way :wah:

She'd reach my waist - just :sneaky:

Fancying GB is very disturbing. In a Scottish dour, false smiling way

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:56 am

Snowfire;1189109 wrote: She'd reach my waist - just :sneaky:

Fancying GB is very disturbing. In a Scottish dour, false smiling way Well, if she only reached your waist... that does have a benifit :sneaky:

Yes, i like that..... A disturbing, grumpy, Scottish, dour, false smiling, one eyed, type way. :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:29 am

Snowfire;1189102 wrote: You have very low standards. Its like me saying I wouldnt say no to Margeret Becket. :-2

Holy Jesus!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:40 am

Galbally;1189179 wrote: Holy Jesus!

Gone on..... admit it Gallders..... you wouldn't say no to Anne widdacombe would you?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:44 am

oscar;1189184 wrote: Gone on..... admit it Gallders..... you wouldn't say no to Anne widdacombe would you?

Whimper.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:56 am

Galbally;1189231 wrote: Whimper.

:yh_rotfl Or what about Jackboot Jackie Smith?

It has to be said though Gallders that compared to your bunch of mingers, Westminster is home of the sexy. Ed Balls is quite shaggable for one.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Fri May 15, 2009 1:14 pm

Thankfully your Oscarness, we have very different versions of shaggableness.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 15, 2009 2:24 pm

Chookie;1189322 wrote: Thankfully your Oscarness, we have very different versions of shaggableness. Well I'm not sure Your Chookiness.... Please send me an e mail forthwith of a picture of yourself so you can be rated on the 'Shaggable scale'.