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This story truly upsets me......



This was not really a sudden storm. We knew that we were having bad weather for this whole week. Weather is always an unpredictable science. Sometimes storms show up early, or late, or not at all.



Don't take a chance with young children on the open seas.:mad:





Children Tossed From Sailboats In Storm



Dozens of children rescued from water



Updated: Monday, 19 Jul 2010, 5:06 PM EDT

Published : Monday, 19 Jul 2010, 12:26 PM EDTBy ARUN KRISTIAN DAS / MyFox New York

MYFOXNY.COM - A sudden and strong thunderstorm capsized more than two dozen small sailboats in New Jersey's Shark River, sending 36 children flying into the water on Monday, the Coast Guard said.



Some of the students had ended up on the beach in Neptune City. Others were still in the water when help arrived.



Here's the link to full story.....



Storm Capsizes Sailboats in Belmar
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I reckon they learned a lot from that, but perhaps I'm missing something. I'm not sure where "tossed themselves into river" comes from though. I've seen flotillas of small dinghies flattened by sudden variable wind before now and they do seem to have been under qualified supervision.
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spot;1322847 wrote: I reckon they learned a lot from that, but perhaps I'm missing something. I'm not sure where "tossed themselves into river" comes from though. I've seen flotillas of small dinghies flattened by sudden variable wind before now and they do seem to have been under qualified supervision.


Sorry Spot...Here's the original link that I read.....

Paragraph taken from this story:

"Following what they learned from their sailing instructors, all the young sailors jumped in the water and capsized their boats to protect them from the storm. Much of the Shark River, which is more like a tidal basin beyond the inlet from the Atlantic Ocean, is just a few feet deep away from the channels used by the Belmar fishing fleet."

Sudden thunderstorm capsizes sailboats, dunks young sailors in Belmar | APP.com | Asbury Park Press

This can be a bit of a dangerous river at time. Some of those children are 7 yrs. old....guess I'm overprotective at times anyway and glad no one was hurt or panicked.
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Ah - that makes sense of the headline then. I did that in Poole Harbour once - that's an inlet of the Atlantic too.

Children sometimes end up drowned by poor decision-making on the part of instructors but where to draw the line, once you've done all you can to qualify the instructors themselves, I'm not sure. No child would ever ride a horse if what they did had to be risk-free. Perhaps it's society's decision whether it wants 100 adults with no practice at assessing and acting on risk, or 99 who learned how during their childhood. I agree with you, fewer children would die if they were wrapped in cotton wool and forbidden to ever test themselves. On the other hand, the proportion of children dying of sports accidents is low compared to those dying of risks we cheerfully expose them to on a regular basis like being passengers in cars. I know which risk does more to build their character.
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Character building or not, if I knew a storm was coming, my child would not be in a boat.
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Peg;1322867 wrote: Character building or not, if I knew a storm was coming, my child would not be in a boat.And yet you'd take them as passengers in a car, presumably. The risk from the storm might be higher than the risk of a drive but it happens to the child only a few times, while the risk of the car drive is cumulative across the thousands of drives involved. The consequence is that the risk to life of the boat in the storm is lower than the risk to life of being a car passenger. At that stage, all you can really do is say that you think the car rides are the more important activity despite the higher risk. That's where we'd disagree.
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spot;1322892 wrote: And yet you'd take them as passengers in a car, presumably. The risk from the storm might be higher than the risk of a drive but it happens to the child only a few times, while the risk of the car drive is cumulative across the thousands of drives involved. The consequence is that the risk to life of the boat in the storm is lower than the risk to life of being a car passenger. At that stage, all you can really do is say that you think the car rides are the more important activity despite the higher risk. That's where we'd disagree.


So you can honestly say if severe storms are predicted you would still let your child or grandchild go out in a boat?
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Peg;1322897 wrote: So you can honestly say if severe storms are predicted you would still let your child or grandchild go out in a boat?As part of an organized group with qualified instructors? I'd pay for them to be taken though I'm sure the children wouldn't be allowed to join in if they weren't at the appropriate experience level to begin with.

Whenever I took them camping in the hills in winter at that age we'd wait for a weekend with snow and fog just to make it worth the effort, they learned a lot more self-assurance with a map and compass that way.
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Kathy Ellen;1322843 wrote: This story truly upsets me......



This was not really a sudden storm. We knew that we were having bad weather for this whole week. Weather is always an unpredictable science. Sometimes storms show up early, or late, or not at all.



Don't take a chance with young children on the open seas.:mad:





Children Tossed From Sailboats In Storm



Dozens of children rescued from water



Updated: Monday, 19 Jul 2010, 5:06 PM EDT

Published : Monday, 19 Jul 2010, 12:26 PM EDTBy ARUN KRISTIAN DAS / MyFox New York

MYFOXNY.COM - A sudden and strong thunderstorm capsized more than two dozen small sailboats in New Jersey's Shark River, sending 36 children flying into the water on Monday, the Coast Guard said.



Some of the students had ended up on the beach in Neptune City. Others were still in the water when help arrived.



Here's the link to full story.....



Storm Capsizes Sailboats in Belmar




Quite shocking they didn't check the weather and kids so young?

Life jackets or not, tossed around, they are lucky to be alive.
Life is just to short for drama.
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