Breaking news... bombs explode at Boston Marathon...

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:19 pm

AnneBoleyn;1424678 wrote: Oscar, where do the London bookies lay odds?

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:29 pm

AnneBoleyn;1424677 wrote: What? No takers for North Korea? It was on the fat boy king's birthday after all.

If it was, we only have ourselves to blame. Just ask Tyr.

Scrat · Post by **Scrat** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:38 pm

Also!, I highly respect your opinions. You often say very wise things. This was not one of them.

I won't ever "get used" to violence. I won't condone it. I won't ignore it. I won't be desensitized to it or try to understand it.

I abhor violence. I detest it. I despise it. For any cause or for any side.

I stood against it when I was a child. I thought I could fight violence with violence when I was a young man. In my middle age I dealt with it. Now that I am old, I understand that violence has never been a solution to any problem. In my life or the world's.

It has cost me friends, relationships, jobs, and homes. It has gained me blood, stitches, loss, heartbreak, and jail time. As far as I can tell, there is no good use for violence in any situation.

And to imply that, somehow, due to events, innocent people deserve violence is insulting to me.

Insulting, tragic, misguided, and misspoken.

Well, did the people of Germany deserve to be killed in 1000 bomber raids, the firestorms of cities like Dresden? Did the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki deserve the bombs dropped on them?

23 people died in Iraq yesterday in various bombings, this happen what 3 or 4 times a week? How many people in Libya died today, Syria?

If Americans allow some cock up like Iraq to happen and not to mention the SUPPORT OF TERRORIST GROUPS to over throw legitimate functioning sectarian societies what the hell do we deserve?

Personally this attack did not surprise me, I certainly won't be surprised if the perp is some Muslim radical jihadist either acting alone or part of a group. I wouldn't be surprised if this individual had family members die by the hand of America what would the bookies say about the odds on that?

I feel no sympathy or anger about this incident. I feel for the children and their mother but not much else. I don't know if America deserves this or not but I sure a f**k think due to incompetence beyond description and the way we treat others in this world we should expect nothing less.

Maybe we should try to understand the fear of a mother in Iraq taking her child to the market or the mother standing in the bread line in Daraa Syria controlled by FSA "freedom fighters" if we want to figure out what is really going on here.

Scrat · Post by **Scrat** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:36 pm

A little info on the bombs. I consider this good material.

Boston bombs said to be made from pressure cookers - National - MyNorthwest.com

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:59 am

AnneBoleyn;1424660 wrote: Boston is the most welcoming of all to the Irish, whether documented or not. If anything, Boston is a hotbed for the IRA, not against.

The UDA carrying out a revenge attack then? Actually I very much doubt an irish connection except perhaps copying the tactics. Wish I hadn't mentioned it now.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:33 am

Seems odd. Who would stand to gain from such an attack? And why the finish line? Seems that it would do far more damage at the starting line, with 25,000 participants crammed together and a large crowd of onlookers. That's where Al Queda would do it, I would think. A suicide bomber would gain a lot of fame like that.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:19 am

SnoozeAgain;1424683 wrote: If it was, we only have ourselves to blame. Just ask Tyr.

Why? I have Scrat, don't need "tyr".

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:20 am

Scrat: "I feel no sympathy or anger about this incident. I feel for the children and their mother but not much else. I don't know if America deserves this or not but I sure a f**k think due to incompetence beyond description and the way we treat others in this world we should expect nothing less."

Okay. So if or when it happens to you or yours I'll know exactly what to say or feel.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:40 am

Accountable;1424711 wrote: Seems odd. Who would stand to gain from such an attack? And why the finish line? Seems that it would do far more damage at the starting line, with 25,000 participants crammed together and a large crowd of onlookers. That's where Al Queda would do it, I would think. A suicide bomber would gain a lot of fame like that.
I wonder if they did not plan for the traffic, lack of access or the security in certain areas.

They may have gotten there later than expected. I had wondered about the same thing.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:12 am

Has anyone seen that pic of that person on the roof ? no sooner does someone post It on FB, facebook deleted It.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:09 am

MIT shooting before Boston explosion suspect killed in Watertown, MA; 2nd Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev on loose, MIT officer killed | abc7chicago.com

Chechnya? Really?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:16 am

That didn't take very long, did it.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:46 am

They are searching for a third person. Remarkable police work. Forget privacy. Obviously we are all being watched & no one cares about minor stuff, like smoking a joint in the street. Civilized world not safe for anarchists!

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:01 am

AnneBoleyn;1424880 wrote: They are searching for a third person. Remarkable police work. Forget privacy. Obviously we are all being watched & no one cares about minor stuff, like smoking a joint in the street. Civilized world not safe for anarchists!Go smoke a joint in the street and let me know how that goes.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:10 am

AnneBoleyn;1424712 wrote: Why? I have Scrat, don't need "tyr".

No one does.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:12 am

flopstock;1424876 wrote: MIT shooting before Boston explosion suspect killed in Watertown, MA; 2nd Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev on loose, MIT officer killed | abc7chicago.com

Chechnya? Really?

Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. I'm not clear on their motives, it sounds like they've both been treated well here.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:20 am

I've been watching the Boston lock down on TV this afternoon.

Have to say, as always, I am Impressed by Boston police.... when In doubt, shoot to kill.

Now, If this was England, for one we'd not be In lockdown. We'd all tut a little and sigh at all the bother and carry on shopping.

UK Police would make a nice appeal for the chaps to surrender themselves. After 6 weeks of someone trying to talk them round, they'd give In to their demands and change the constitution. They'd then be given bail awaiting trial while social services find them a nice council house and arrange for them to recieve benefit. On conviction, their sentance would be a year or two and upon release, Theresa May would spend millions of the tax payers money trying to deport them only for judges to rule that It would breach their ooooman rights.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:23 am

Ahso!;1424881 wrote: Go smoke a joint in the street and let me know how that goes.

Goes fine Ahso!. This is NYC, not Podunk PA.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:25 am

Oscar, in the USA the motto is "Don't f**k with us."

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:33 am

oscar;1424885 wrote: I've been watching the Boston lock down on TV this afternoon.

Have to say, as always, I am Impressed by Boston police.... when In doubt, shoot to kill.

Now, If this was England, for one we'd not be In lockdown. We'd all tut a little and sigh at all the bother and carry on shopping.

UK Police would make a nice appeal for the chaps to surrender themselves. After 6 weeks of someone trying to talk them round, they'd give In to their demands and change the constitution. They'd then be given bail awaiting trial while social services find them a nice council house and arrange for them to recieve benefit. On conviction, their sentance would be a year or two and upon release, Theresa May would spend millions of the tax payers money trying to deport them only for judges to rule that It would breach their ooooman rights.Are you aware how insulting and demeaning to your country, culture and fellow Brit that all appears? Why don't you move to a country that suits you more?

From conversing with people from your country on the internet I've gained a high degree of respect for your culture and most of the citizenry over there. Your education system is obviously heads and shoulders above ours, and the care you all afford those less capable or furtunate is remarkable. Most Brits I've come across are quite happy and proud of their culture and country.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:36 am

Ahso!;1424889 wrote: Are you aware how insulting and demeaning to your country, culture and fellow Brit that all appears? Why don't you move to a country that suits you more?

From conversing with people from your country on the internet I've gained a high degree of respect for your culture and most of the citizenry over there. Your education system is obviously heads and shoulders above ours, and the care you all afford those less capable or furtunate is remarkable. Most Brits I've come across are quite happy and proud of their culture and country.

Irony | What is the Definition of Irony? | Dictionary.com

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:39 am

Britain Love It or Leave It.

Sounds so familiar.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:42 am

AnneBoleyn;1424886 wrote: Goes fine Ahso!. This is NYC, not Podunk PA.A new report released today by the Drug Policy Alliance and the Marijuana Arrest Research Project documents the astonishing number of hours the New York City Police Department has spent arresting and processing hundreds of thousands of people for low-level misdemeanor marijuana possession arrests over the last 11 years. The report finds that NYPD used approximately 1,000,000 hours of police officer time making marijuana possession arrests during Mayor Bloomberg's tenure. These are hours that police officers might have otherwise have spent investigating and solving serious crimes.

Prepared by Dr. Harry Levine of Queens College, the report also estimates that the people arrested by NYPD for marijuana possession have spent 5,000,000 hours in police custody over the last decade. Gabriel Sayegh: Marijuana Arrests in NYC Cost One Million Police Hours

If you smoke pot, you're less likely to get busted in Pennsylvania or North Dakota than in Alaska or New York -- and much more likely in certain Texas counties, where 1 in 15 people have been arrested for marijuana smoking. Pot Busts Much More Likely in Some States, Counties | Alternet

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:47 am

Those are kids, mostly young black & latino, acquired during Stop & Frisk & have their lives ruined for carrying around a joint. If you are decently dressed & white, nothing happens. If you are decently dressed & white & are dealing pounds every day, nothing happens, even if there are complaints about marijuana smells possibly threatening the sale price of your coop or condo.

But the zeal with which you pursued this impresses me, so we'll meet in Podunk. You light up & I'll watch.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:14 am

oscar;1424885 wrote: I've been watching the Boston lock down on TV this afternoon.

Have to say, as always, I am Impressed by Boston police.... when In doubt, shoot to kill.

Now, If this was England, for one we'd not be In lockdown. We'd all tut a little and sigh at all the bother and carry on shopping.

UK Police would make a nice appeal for the chaps to surrender themselves. After 6 weeks of someone trying to talk them round, they'd give In to their demands and change the constitution. They'd then be given bail awaiting trial while social services find them a nice council house and arrange for them to recieve benefit. On conviction, their sentance would be a year or two and upon release, Theresa May would spend millions of the tax payers money trying to deport them only for judges to rule that It would breach their ooooman rights.

Let's not forget the facebook page lionizing them as heroes.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:16 am

oscar;1424890 wrote: Irony | What is the Definition of Irony? | Dictionary.com

Americans don't get irony, you're wasting your time.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:21 am

SnoozeAgain;1424899 wrote: Americans don't get irony, you're wasting your time. You do.... !!!!

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:21 am

blabbermouth - definition of blabbermouth by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:21 am

Ahso!;1424901 wrote: blabbermouth - definition of blabbermouth by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.joke - definition of joke by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:25 am

SnoozeAgain;1424899 wrote: Americans don't get irony, you're wasting your time.

I send most of my irony out. They do a great job at my local cleaners. Sometimes they're a little heavy with the starch though.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:36 am

Ahso!;1424902 wrote: joke - definition of joke by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Urban Dictionary: bellend

Not a joke.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:39 am

oscar;1424905 wrote: Urban Dictionary: bellend

Not a joke.But it is funny. You know what I mean, the childishness of it.

By the way, I doubt you understand the meaning of irony. Try dolt, it's more fitting.

I'm not Halfwit!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:47 am

Ahso!;1424906 wrote: But it is funny. You know what I mean, the childishness of it.

By the way, I doubt you understand the meaning of irony. Try dolt, it's more fitting.

I'm not Halfwit!

I'm British... Life Is Irony, double entendres, satire and piss taking.... we thrive on It. It's what makes us superior and allows us to look down on the rest of the world with a haughty disdain.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:55 am

Rule Britannia!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:00 am

This Is how we do Irony and Satire Ahso..... please note that the long haired chap In the clip Is from the North of England and I apologise for lack of subtitles.

Have I Got News For You - Alastair Campbell v Ian Hislop | Series 43 Ep8 ( 2012 ) - YouTube

See ? We even take the piss out of you

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:25 am

Are you havin' a larf?

911 · Post by **911** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:00 pm

Punk in custody

Going to take him to hospital, unsure if he is wounded or how badly.

Boston is celebrating, wow, what hard core people they are to have put up with this all day. Let's hope they can get some sleep tonight!:-6

Send the punk to Gitmo!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:32 pm

911;1424943 wrote: Punk in custody

Going to take him to hospital, unsure if he is wounded or how badly.

Boston is celebrating, wow, what hard core people they are to have put up with this all day. Let's hope they can get some sleep tonight!:-6

Send the punk to Gitmo! Thank You for the update.

Your police did a massive job there. Bravo !!!!

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:46 pm

In interviews, his family is saying he was set up.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:34 am

What's next: The interrogation of the Boston bombing suspect - Open Channel

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:28 am

Autopsy reports show the first brother was killed not by gunshot but when the younger brother ran over him fleeing from the police...

Oh the Irony !!!!

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:58 pm

An observation....

As they 'apprehended' the suspect who was hiding in a small boat, a volley of gunfire could be heard.

There followed an influx onto the streets of citizens 'celebrating' by cheering, whooping and such like.

We don't do stuff like that in the UK........and we have had some practice.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:24 pm

Practice at which part?

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:48 pm

I don't recall Americans celebrating on the streets when an ex-president dies.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:58 pm

Accountable;1424976 wrote: Practice at which part?

The capture of terrorists after bombings.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:08 pm

SnoozeAgain;1424981 wrote: I don't recall Americans celebrating on the streets when an ex-president dies.

Some deny the authenticity of the current incumbent.

Maybe you only get lack lustre corporate multi millionaire Presidents/politicians

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:12 pm

SnoozeAgain;1424981 wrote: I don't recall Americans celebrating on the streets when an ex-president dies.I'd bet it happens and will continue to. The media might not catch it though.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:54 pm

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:33 pm

I can fully understand the people of Boston taking to the streets..

There was every chance he could have another bomb with him or open fire on more Innocents. The entire city was In lock down for hours. The relief when he was caught must have been euphoric. A serious threat to life was In custody.

But then Britain has death parties when a sick, frail old lady dies at 89 years old....

tabby · Post by **tabby** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:01 am

I find it extremely amusing that the suspect is being cared for at a Beth Israel Hospital.