In Defense of ChiptBeef

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:58 am

SnoozeControl wrote: I won't even have to see "So how's that ignore setting working for you?"
You beat me to it.

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:40 am

BabyRider wrote: So, what....are you here to whine in protest about the unfairness of it all when he's not around?
Not a "whine" just asking questions. I remember seeing several threads in this forum dedicated to nothing but members asking other members questions. Why are mine so wrong? Can we only post questions in certain areas of this forum? Are general questions about certain members off limits? Just asking.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:08 pm

TruthSeekerToo wrote: Not a "whine" just asking questions. I remember seeing several threads in this forum dedicated to nothing but members asking other members questions. Why are mine so wrong? Can we only post questions in certain areas of this forum? Are general questions about certain members off limits? Just asking.

Not at all, I just find it interesting that you have only just got here and are "sticking up" for him rather consistently, and bumping all his threads. I'm a suspicious type person, and I'm not stupid, either. Pretty transparent if you ask me. Even if you don't ask me.

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:53 am

TruthSeekerToo wrote: Not a "whine" just asking questions. I remember seeing several threads in this forum dedicated to nothing but members asking other members questions. Why are mine so wrong? Can we only post questions in certain areas of this forum? Are general questions about certain members off limits? Just asking.

I appreciate you input. Just be careful. It looks like the "guilt by association" has already started. It might get worse before it gets better. We live in the same state. That's got to be a factor in the conspiracy also. :rolleyes:

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:25 am

*yawn*

I've found a wonderful cure for my insomnia...read "Thoughts and Theories by ChiptBeef". Total snoozer.....:yh_sleep

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:29 am

BabyRider wrote: *yawn*

I've found a wonderful cure for my insomnia...read "Thoughts and Theories by ChiptBeef". Total snoozer.....:yh_sleep
But you keep on reading. Interesting.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:58 am

ChiptBeef wrote: I appreciate you input. Just be careful. It looks like the "guilt by association" has already started. It might get worse before it gets better. We live in the same state. That's got to be a factor in the conspiracy also. :rolleyes:
Maybe we should get you some cheese to go with that WHINE!!!!

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:28 am

Just trying to help others. Maybe that's a concept you don't practice. Everyone has a right to their own moral compass.

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:50 pm

ChiptBeef wrote: I appreciate you input. Just be careful. It looks like the "guilt by association" has already started. It might get worse before it gets better. We live in the same state. That's got to be a factor in the conspiracy also. :rolleyes:
I decided to join because of what you posted in the "Regional" section. After I looked over some of your other posts and the way you were getting attacked, it seemed to me you were getting the short end of the stick. I'm not saying who was right or who was wrong, just what I think. If that makes me guilty by association, oh well. Life goes on.

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:08 am

CARLA wrote: Haven't we defended ChiptBeef enought already..
No.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:17 am

Wht does he need defending? Strikes as someone who is eminently capable of speaking up for himself. Being opinionated is not a crime so long as you are ready to defend your opinion and ready to accept that the opinion of others is just as valuable and yours might be wrong or not informed enough.

An opionated pillock is just an opinionated pillock no matter what they think of themselves. An ignorant opinionated pillock will either learn to think about what they think or move on to find intellectiual masterbation somewhere else.

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:35 am

What's a "pillock?" I couldn't find it in an American published dictionary. Sounds pretty wordly, whatever it is.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:41 am

The definition is on this page, CB......................it is not a positive word.

http://english2american.com/dictionary/p.html

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:53 am

gmc wrote: Wht does he need defending? Strikes as someone who is eminently capable of speaking up for himself. Being opinionated is not a crime so long as you are ready to defend your opinion and ready to accept that the opinion of others is just as valuable and yours might be wrong or not informed enough.

An opionated pillock is just an opinionated pillock no matter what they think of themselves. An ignorant opinionated pillock will either learn to think about what they think or move on to find intellectiual masterbation somewhere else.
That's the dumbest opinion I've ever heard! *Insert tongue A into cheek B*

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:03 am

chonsigirl wrote: The definition is on this page, CB......................it is not a positive word.

http://english2american.com/dictionary/p.html

Good site chonsi...

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:23 am

chonsigirl wrote: ...it is not a positive word.

http://english2american.com/dictionary/p.html
So it's a generic, "unknown British word" with a primary sexual connotation. Wow. What a excellent debating resource. (NOT) :wah:

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:37 am

TruthSeekerToo wrote: So it's a generic, "unknown British word" with a primary sexual connotation. Wow. What a excellent debating resource. (NOT) :wah:
Stop swinging, Truth. Nobody's attacking. :-6

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:44 am

Accountable wrote: Stop swinging, Truth. Nobody's attacking. :-6
No claims by me of "attacking." I just thought it might be nice to use real words as opposed to the "unknown British word".

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:46 am

TruthSeekerToo wrote: No claims by me of "attacking." I just thought it might be nice to use real words as opposed to the "unknown British word".

:yh_rotfl

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:01 am

chonsigirl wrote: The definition is on this page, CB......................it is not a positive word.

http://english2american.com/dictionary/p.html

"It's a contraction of the 16th century word "pillicock" (describing the male member)"

Was gmc referring to me? I wonder...

After all, I am male and a member of the forum...

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:05 am

posted by chiptbeef

What's a "pillock?" I couldn't find it in an American published dictionary. Sounds pretty wordly, whatever it is.

Thats because I am using english and not american english.

from the oxford english dictionary

pillock

Ã¢â‚¬¢ noun Brit. informal a stupid person.

Ã¢â‚¬ ORIGIN from obsolete pillicock penis.

posted by truthseekertoo

No claims by me of "attacking." I just thought it might be nice to use real words as opposed to the "unknown British word".

tsktsk clearly americans lack the derth of language to express themselves properly. No doubt it's due to being isolated so long from civilisation and forgetting so many words as well as how to spell properly. (not spell the word properly you understand, cos I'm sure you can spell properly properly but other words you can't spell properly like colour)

There are also such exciting terms that would have beeen equally appropriate ba'heid, nyaff, scunner, numpty. but I thought that adding scots words in as well as anglo saxon would be pushing the language barriers a bit

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:11 am

Now we're into the American bashing. Ouch!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:33 am

gmc wrote: posted by chiptbeef

Thats because I am using english and not american english.

from the oxford english dictionary

posted by truthseekertoo

tsktsk clearly americans lack the derth of language to express themselves properly. No doubt it's due to being isolated so long from civilisation and forgetting so many words as well as how to spell properly. (not spell the word properly you understand, cos I'm sure you can spell properly properly but other words you can't spell properly like colour)

There are also such exciting terms that would have beeen equally appropriate ba'heid, nyaff, scunner, numpty. but I thought that adding scots words in as well as anglo saxon would be pushing the language barriers a bit
I like numpty out of that list, If I'm allowed a preference.

US guys, research gmc. He's not bashing, he pulling your plonker. (I think I got the phrase right)

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:24 pm

Hey guys...this isn't an 'English language' debating forum. We use 'weird' words both sides of the Atlantic. Sometimes I have to PM someone to 'translate' for me. There are far worse words that are REALLY insulting IMO.

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:18 pm

gmc wrote: Thats because I am using english and not american english... clearly americans lack the derth of language to express themselves properly.
Yea, stupid Americans. If we want to call someone an "idiot," we call them an "idiot" instead of using an "unknown British word" related to male anatomy. :wah:

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:26 pm

I give up !!!!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:51 pm

Worthy adversary, to be sure. Pretty cool to have on your side too.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:53 pm

Exactly right Arny....

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:39 pm

Bez wrote: I give up !!!!
Please don't give up... this is very entertaining. It's an education too with all the different viewpoints (language, writing styles, etc).

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:43 pm

TruthSeekerToo wrote: Please don't give up... this is very entertaining. It's an education too with all the different viewpoints (language, writing styles, etc).

Hope you don't mind the '.....' I use a lot of them...it keeps the words flowing for me. I can write 'pukka' when I have to. PUKKA is NOT a rude word by the way .

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:48 pm

Bez wrote: Hope you don't mind the '.....' I use a lot of them...it keeps the words flowing for me. I can write 'pukka' when I have to. PUKKA is NOT a rude word by the way .

Sorry, you lost me.

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:01 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Pukka is I believe an old Indian word we have borrowed which means correct or superior. It is a part of the English every day slang especially Londoners
Thanks for that. It looks like somebody just got a compliment. Call me silly, but things are looking better already. Let's keep it up. Even as a new member for just a few days, I've seen enough arrows whizzing through the air to see the need for a cease-fire.

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:33 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Believe me, the spoken word in certain parts of the UK is a whole set of different languages in themselves. What maybe common parlance in Manchester, say, may confuse the average Londoner and vice versa. The broad Geordie accent is a mistery to all outside of Newcastle.

The use of slang in Britain is common and usual and is no way meant to appear divisive. We just cant help ourselves. It is also fun to teach. Many Americans here have adopted the more common ones. I'm sure that on one occasion I said Howdie, so its rubbing off

Even as a Brummie, I have always embraced Cockney Rhyming slang and fully employ it, me old china

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:44 pm

Where's Daffy when you need 'im? :wah:

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:25 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: ChiptBeef, there is no anti-Americanism here and not in gmc's post either. As Accountable points out he is pulling your leg. There is also nothing wrong with us using slang, in fact some of our slang has been adopted here in the Garden by some American members because it is descriptive and colourful.

You must understand that the usage of the word "pillock" in the English language has long since lost any offensive conotation and is used in a playful manner.

You will find gmc to be a worthy and knowledgable adversary in future debates. I trust you dont want an easy ride, thats no fun

Lastly, before you ask, my ignore is switched off and my opinion of you has adjusted since your early posts. That earlier reaction by several of us may have been unfounded but only susbsequent posting has since changed my view. If I may be so bold as to respectfully suggest loosening your top shirt button occasionally as to affect some occasional banter. Your stiff collar sometimes obscures a sense of humour

However "Opinions vary"...... Carry on !

I apologize for any offense, past or present. You're right. GMC was just making a general statement with no names mentioned. I may have been making the ride harder than it needed to be. I'm currently wearing a sweatshirt (no buttons or collar). Hopefully, my sincere appreciation of your post comes thru. I was guilty of being too defensive ( as in this case). I'll try hard to put that to bed.

P.S. Touche' on the last sentence. Outstanding. I earned that.

TruthSeekerToo · Post by **TruthSeekerToo** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:15 am

Uncle Kram wrote: Even as a Brummie, I have always embraced Cockney Rhyming slang and fully employ it, me old china
I can see right now I've got a lot to learn. :wah:

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:19 am

pukka PUHK-uh, adjective:

1. Authentic; genuine.

2. Good of its kind; first-class.

He talks like the quintessential pukka Englishman and quotes Chesterton and Kipling by the yard and yet he has chosen to live most of his adult life abroad.

-- Lynn Barber, "Bell book . . . and then what?," The Observer, August 27, 2000

If he does not have a house, the government gives him a pukka residence, not a . . . shack on the pavement but a solid construction.

-- Salman Rushdie, The Ground Beneath Her Feet

FG is just the 'University of life'....learn, learn, learn ...:-6 This was an interesting thread and worth having a look at. It demonstrates the language differences between the US and UK. I found it fascinating. - http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showt ... hp?t=10382

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:16 am

Bez wrote: FG is just the 'University of life'....learn, learn, learn ...:-6
How are the degrees awarded? Length of membership, number of posts, or quality of post content? I may have a way to go in all departments by some standards, but is the light I see at the end of the tunnel something other than a fast moving train?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:31 pm

ChiptBeef wrote: How are the degrees awarded? Length of membership, number of posts, or quality of post content? I may have a way to go in all departments by some standards, but is the light I see at the end of the tunnel something other than a fast moving train?

Yer av is Wile E Coyote and you have to ask that?!? :wah:

That's the 9:45, right on time!

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:52 pm

Accountable wrote: Yer av is Wile E Coyote and you have to ask that?!? :wah:

That's the 9:45, right on time!
I forgot. You're 100% right. My degree comes stamped "ACME" on the outisde.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:02 pm

ChiptBeef wrote: "It's a contraction of the 16th century word "pillicock" (describing the male member)"

Was gmc referring to me? I wonder...

After all, I am male and a member of the forum...

We must have posted about the same time as I did not see this one. I was actually sticking up for you but trying to interject a bit of humour at the same time.

You're opinionated but I don't think you are stupid and I for one would be sorry if you stopped posting. I was just trying to make the point that someone who is opinionated but with nothing else will get fed up and go away. Someone who is opoinionated but likes being challenged about his opinions and challenging others will realise that some of the posters here will make him think and stick around. I did not mean anything personal about you or anyone else.

posted by accountable

I like numpty out of that list, If I'm allowed a preference.

US guys, research gmc. He's not bashing, he pulling your plonker. (I think I got the phrase right)

I was indeed pulling your plonker, taking the ****, taking the mickey.

to illustrate how the word numpty is used The Scottish parliament is known locally as the "numpty house". Somehow it just seems more accurate. I bet you can think of several institutions that would fit the description.

posted by Arnold Layne

Believe me, the spoken word in certain parts of the UK is a whole set of different languages in themselves. What maybe common parlance in Manchester, say, may confuse the average Londoner and vice versa. The broad Geordie accent is a mistery to all outside of Newcastle.

The use of slang in Britain is common and usual and is no way meant to appear divisive. We just cant help ourselves. It is also fun to teach. Many Americans here have adopted the more common ones. I'm sure that on one occasion I said Howdie, so its rubbing off

I find the language differences entertaining and sometimes can't resist the temptation to show off. Colloquial english is full of fairly earthy expressions that seem to have fallen in to disuse in american english. Added to that is I know lots of obscure scots words as well. You will also find that the British posters will take the mickey out of regional differences amongst themselves on a fairly regular basis without taking the least offence.

ChiptBeef · Post by **ChiptBeef** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:44 am

You mean I'm not entertaining all the time? Well, shut my mouth......