To smack, or not to smack....?

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:56 am

Accountable wrote: I don't Think Willie S is real. It's just a fictional persona the writer made up.

psssssst........are you talking about William Ess here

or William Ess Shakespeare, the famous writer

William Ess is a writer too:guitarist

psssssst.......my name isn't weber either, nor is miriam my first name:sneaky:

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:03 am

weber wrote: psssssst.......my name isn't weber either, nor is miriam my first name:sneaky:

Is Miriam really not your first name?

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:07 am

User names are not usually real names

I thought forums were anonymous, like Pinky and Accountable, and Open Mind and Nomad and ARgi and Snooze and and and and miriam with a small m is not my first name that I am called. I am sorry if that is bad.

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:10 am

flopstock wrote: Yours is even better! Bill Sikes - Bill Psychs:D As for flopstock, one can only 'assume' it is a female named diane:wah:

Oh Floppy, dang, I thot that was you real first name:D

chrisb84uk · Post by **chrisb84uk** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:14 am

weber wrote: User names are not usually real names

I thought forums were anonymous, like Pinky and Accountable, and Open Mind and Nomad and ARgi and Snooze and and and and miriam with a small m is not my first name that I am called. I am sorry if that is bad.

Hmmm you know come to think of it, I can't think of many people that's user name is really their first name. I know mine is, a few other people I could guess, but that's it.

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:16 am

chrisb84uk wrote: Hmmm you know come to think of it, I can't think of many people that's user name is really their first name. I know mine is, a few other people I could guess, but that's it.

I figured yours was Chris and probably miriam seemed my first name but I spelled it with a small m on purpose.

zinkyusa · Post by **zinkyusa** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:36 am

flopstock wrote: Wait! You mean that yours isn't buster?:eek:

:wah:

:yh_rotfl

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:01 am

flopstock wrote: Wait! You mean that yours isn't buster?:eek:

:) Floopy

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:05 am

cherandbuster wrote:

Floopy

hehehe Cher, you've made her famous

W32.Floopy.ARisk Risk Level 1: Very Low

- found dat on de web. Everything is dere

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:14 am

flopstock wrote: And there you have it folks.... I'm basically harmless:D

'Lo............did I say anything 'bout harmless.....oh well floopies gotta be harmless:wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:17 am

According to my parents my real first name is dumbass, thats why i use yzgi here.

zinkyusa · Post by **zinkyusa** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:18 am

YZGI wrote: According to my parents my real first name is dumbass, thats why i use yzgi here.

Dang buddy, that's my name to!:wah:

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:19 am

YZGI wrote: According to my parents my real first name is dumbass, thats why i use yzgi here.

My first belly laugh of the day.:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:20 am

zinkyusa wrote: Dang buddy, that's my name to!:wah:
At least we know who they are yelling at.

eyesopen · Post by **eyesopen** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:01 pm

I have two children one nearly three and one three months, i have never smacked my children i think it causes distrust, my three year old does mis behave as all children do she sits in the corner to think about her behaviour and calms down and we start again, i dont understand how we can teach are children right from wrong when we smack them for misbehaving it is strange- how can we justify this way of discipline and call ourselves civillised??? I was smacked as a child and i never really understood it it made me lie to get myself out of trouble and scared when i made mistakes not a healthy environment!!!

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:04 pm

eyesopen wrote: I have two children one nearly three and one three months, i have never smacked my children i think it causes distrust, my three year old does mis behave as all children do she sits in the corner to think about her behaviour and calms down and we start again, i dont understand how we can teach are children right from wrong when we smack them for misbehaving it is strange- how can we justify this way of discipline and call ourselves civillised??? I was smacked as a child and i never really understood it it made me lie to get myself out of trouble and scared when i made mistakes not a healthy environment!!!

Welcome eyesopen

Why don't you start an Intro thread? If you fill out your profile page, we can learn more about you :-6

Hope you have fun with us :guitarist

William Ess · Post by **William Ess** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:38 pm

eyesopen wrote: I have two children one nearly three and one three months, i have never smacked my children i think it causes distrust, my three year old does mis behave as all children do she sits in the corner to think about her behaviour and calms down and we start again, i dont understand how we can teach are children right from wrong when we smack them for misbehaving it is strange- how can we justify this way of discipline and call ourselves civillised??? I was smacked as a child and i never really understood it it made me lie to get myself out of trouble and scared when i made mistakes not a healthy environment!!!

Well, at last someone has actually addressed the issue. Hurrah for that. My views are:

1. That it is a matter for individual parents.

2. It depends on the children. Some are more wilful than others whereas others can be controlled with a fixed eye or a quiet word

3. I believe it is a weakness to say that because a particular method is used in one family, it is automatically suited to another.

4. I am opposed in principle to the state taking a hand in this. I trust the judgement of individual parents for more readily than I would trust the grey and inflexible hand of the state. Legislation is not, in my judgement, the way forward.

5...I think we should learn to distinguish in these debates between calculated corporal punishment and Grievous bodily harm.

6. I find the argument that corporal punishment somehow turns children into the ogres and adult misfits that some threads in this discussion claim. Forty years ago - not a long time ago - almost all male adults had been beaten at various times in their upbringing (fathers and schoolmasters) and the resulting generation was far more socially stable than its successor; the first to be brought up in a cane-free environment.

William Ess · Post by **William Ess** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:39 pm

I think we have members from Sonoma County? Anyone here from a place called Santa Rosa?

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:44 pm

William Ess wrote: I think we have members from Sonoma County? Anyone here from a place called Santa Rosa?

i'm from sonoma county, and i'm about five miles south of Santa Rosa - but i'm unclear what that has to do with the topic, billy.

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:50 pm

Neither do I, but I did three separate web searches for statistics on not spanking or spanking children. In all cases, all that came up was spanking being abuse. Rather one sided. Entire pages of spanking abuses when I asked for not spanking. Evidentally not spanking is not known.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:52 pm

weber wrote: psssssst........are you talking about William Ess here

or William Ess Shakespeare, the famous writer

William Ess is a writer too:guitarist

psssssst.......my name isn't weber either, nor is miriam my first name:sneaky:I'm not talking about names, I'm talking about persona ... personalities. What you think about Accountable you think about me, because I don't put on affectations. I don't believe Willie can say the same.