Has anyone cared enough to share this with you?

ronald205nc · Post by **ronald205nc** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:09 pm

Has anyone cared enough to share the truth about Heaven with you?

The Holy Bible describes Heaven as a beautiful place where people live forever with no death, sorrow, sickness and pain. {Revelation 21:4}

Hell is described as a place of suffering forever for all those who are not saved. {Matthew 13:50}

The good news is that about 2000 years ago Jesus Christ(God the Son) paid for everyone's sins or wrong doing by dying on the cross and rising from the dead after three days. {Mark 10:34}

God the Son came as a sinless man. {Philippians 2:5-8}

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto God(The Father), but by me." {John 14:6} He is our ONLY way to God(The Father) in Heaven.

The Holy Bible says, "That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God(The Father) raised Jesus Christ from the dead, you will be saved." {Romans 10:9}

You should not wait until later to get saved because you may die before you get another chance and you will miss Heaven.

If you want to be sure you will go to Heaven after this life is over just pray a meaningful prayer like the one below with your mouth and from your heart right now to God and you will be saved.

Dear God I want to be saved. Dear Jesus Christ Son of God I want to make you my personal Lord and Savior. Please forgive me of my sins or things I have done wrong in my life. Thanks Jesus Christ for taking my punishment for my sins by shedding your sinless blood on the cross and dying for my sins. Jesus Christ I now confess you as my Lord and believe in my heart that God(The Father) raised you from the dead. Amen.

If you just allowed God to save you then welcome to the family of God because you are now a Christian on your way to Heaven.

Now that you are saved, you should strive to live a godly life and you also need to be reading the Bible for yourself. The Bible is essentially God's instruction manual for how to live our lives in a way that is pleasing to God. A good place to start reading the Bible is the first chapter of Romans. You should also find a Christian Church to attend in your area.

Have a good day,

Ronald L. Grossi

RonaldLGrossi@yahoo.com (Use this email address if you have a question.)

Please share this with all your friends and family so they can learn the truth about Heaven before it's too late.

Some of them may not like the message, but at least you cared enough to share it with them.

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:17 pm

ronald205nc;662034 wrote: You should not wait until later to get saved because you may die before you get another chance and you will miss Heaven.Let me check I've got my options straight, here. If I don't do this in time, before I die, I'll spend eternity in "a place of suffering"? This is the way the universe is really governed?

Do I spend eternity in "a place of suffering" if I've accepted Buddhism instead of Jesus Christ? Or if I'm a devout Hindu? Or I'm a practicing Zoroastrian? Does God have "a place of suffering" set aside for me in that circumstance too?

ronald205nc · Post by **ronald205nc** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:32 pm

spot;662036 wrote: Let me check I've got my options straight, here. If I don't do this in time, before I die, I'll spend eternity in "a place of suffering"? This is the way the universe is really governed?

Do I spend eternity in "a place of suffering" if I've accepted Buddhism instead of Jesus Christ? Or if I'm a devout Hindu? Or I'm a practicing Zoroastrian? Does God have "a place of suffering" set aside for me in that circumstance too?

Only Jesus Christ can save us because He is sinless.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:53 pm

Pinky;662044 wrote: Sorry to disappoint you, but Jesus inhabited a mortal body, did he not? That means he farted, picked his nose, had the odd wet dream and probably had to take the occasional leak in an alley when he got desperate. The bible even says he threw a mega wobbly in the market place and wrecked some stuff. Therefore he can't be sinless can he?

:wah:

woppy71 · Post by **woppy71** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:01 pm

Pinky;662044 wrote: Sorry to disappoint you, but Jesus inhabited a mortal body, did he not? That means he farted, picked his nose, had the odd wet dream and probably had to take the occasional leak in an alley when he got desperate. The bible even says he threw a mega wobbly in the market place and wrecked some stuff. Therefore he can't be sinless can he?

As ever, a point well made by Pinky. A Pinky Point!! :wah::wah: sorry........

ronald205nc · Post by **ronald205nc** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:13 pm

Pinky;662044 wrote: Sorry to disappoint you, but Jesus inhabited a mortal body, did he not? That means he farted, picked his nose, had the odd wet dream and probably had to take the occasional leak in an alley when he got desperate. The bible even says he threw a mega wobbly in the market place and wrecked some stuff. Therefore he can't be sinless can he?

The clear teaching of Scripture is that Jesus was impeccable - Jesus could not have sinned. If He could have sinned, He would still be able to sin today because He retains the same essence He did while living on earth. He is the God-Man - and will forever remain so, having full deity and full humanity so included in one person as to be indivisible. To believe that Jesus could sin is to believe that God could sin. Colossians 1:19, "For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell." Colossians 2:9, "For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:21 pm

ronald205nc;662034 wrote: Has anyone cared enough to share the truth about Heaven with you?

The Holy Bible describes Heaven as a beautiful place where people live forever with no death, sorrow, sickness and pain. {Revelation 21:4}

Hell is described as a place of suffering forever for all those who are not saved. {Matthew 13:50}

The good news is that about 2000 years ago Jesus Christ(God the Son) paid for everyone's sins or wrong doing by dying on the cross and rising from the dead after three days. {Mark 10:34}

God the Son came as a sinless man. {Philippians 2:5-8}

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto God(The Father), but by me." {John 14:6} He is our ONLY way to God(The Father) in Heaven.

The Holy Bible says, "That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God(The Father) raised Jesus Christ from the dead, you will be saved." {Romans 10:9}

You should not wait until later to get saved because you may die before you get another chance and you will miss Heaven.

If you want to be sure you will go to Heaven after this life is over just pray a meaningful prayer like the one below with your mouth and from your heart right now to God and you will be saved.

Dear God I want to be saved. Dear Jesus Christ Son of God I want to make you my personal Lord and Savior. Please forgive me of my sins or things I have done wrong in my life. Thanks Jesus Christ for taking my punishment for my sins by shedding your sinless blood on the cross and dying for my sins. Jesus Christ I now confess you as my Lord and believe in my heart that God(The Father) raised you from the dead. Amen.

If you just allowed God to save you then welcome to the family of God because you are now a Christian on your way to Heaven.

Now that you are saved, you should strive to live a godly life and you also need to be reading the Bible for yourself. The Bible is essentially God's instruction manual for how to live our lives in a way that is pleasing to God. A good place to start reading the Bible is the first chapter of Romans. You should also find a Christian Church to attend in your area.

Have a good day,

Ronald L. Grossi

RonaldLGrossi@yahoo.com (Use this email address if you have a question.)

Please share this with all your friends and family so they can learn the truth about Heaven before it's too late.

Some of them may not like the message, but at least you cared enough to share it with them.

Sorry but.....:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:30 pm

ronald205nc;662039 wrote: Only Jesus Christ can save us because He is sinless.

So... those who haven't called on the name of Jesus will all spend eternity in "a place of suffering"? Isn't that the majority of the human race?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:31 pm

ronald205nc;662039 wrote: Only Jesus Christ can save us because He is sinless.

Sorry to disapoint you but Christianity does not have exclusive right to the truth - other religions show different aspects of God and different ways to salvation.

The concept of "my religion saved, everyone else damned" is responsible for most of the ills of the last two thousand years.

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:32 pm

Bryn Mawr;662070 wrote: Sorry to disapoint you but Christianity does not have exclusive right to the truth - other religions show different aspects of God and different ways to salvation.

The concept of "my religion saved, everyone else damned" is responsible for most of the ills of the last two thousand years.Hush, child. We're in the presence of someone who knows God's revealed truth. Stop interrupting the message or I'll damn you.

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:35 pm

Pinky;662073 wrote: Oh god, I think it's time to go stare at Michelangelo's finger again!:D

I'm being offered the free grace of salvation, I'm trying to decide whether I want it or not.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:43 pm

spot;662075 wrote: I'm being offered the free grace of salvation, I'm trying to decide whether I want it or not.

Is there any extras thrown in too. Buy one get one free? Double points if you sign up now? Oh and I would insist on one if those 'pearly gate' cards that I can put on my key ring. Hunky escort up the steps would be rather nice too :-2

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:46 pm

Pinky;662083 wrote: I already baggsied mine, hehe!:D

Mmmmm - Momma like !!!

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:49 pm

Pinky;662083 wrote: I already baggsied mine, hehe!:D That's John Travolta?

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:49 pm

ronald205nc;662055 wrote: If He could have sinned,

Please define sin.

ronald205nc;662055 wrote: He would still be able to sin today because He retains the same essence He did while living on earth.

Sorry, if Yeshua ever existed, he's been dead for some time.

ronald205nc;662055 wrote: He is the God-Man - and will forever remain so, having full deity and full humanity so included in one person as to be indivisible.

Can you show proof which would be accepted in a court of law?

ronald205nc;662055 wrote: To believe that Jesus could sin is to believe that God could sin.

Why can "God" not sin?

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:51 pm

Chookie;662089 wrote: Why can "God" not sin?Because the Bible tells us so, silly.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:53 pm

spot;662094 wrote: Because the Bible tells us so, silly.

Yes......., but which version?

Post by **spot** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:22 pm

Chookie;662097 wrote: Yes......., but which version?If ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot.

Moroni 10:33, that is, where for some reason I'm excluded from the paths of righteousness.

Carolyn · Post by **Carolyn** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:19 pm

Shouldn't this topic be in the religion section? As a Humanist, I want to respect everyone's beliefs, but we have a religion section for a reason.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:29 pm

Agreed. I know I find it really intrusive.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:33 pm

Yeah, us witches....."hocus pocus!!"

They love us, Pinky.

Carolyn · Post by **Carolyn** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:28 pm

At least put the words "religious message" at the beginning of the title. But really, it shouldn't have been posted here in the first place. ronald205nc would have gotten a more positive response if it had been.

Post by **spot** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:22 am

Carolyn;662288 wrote: But really, it shouldn't have been posted here in the first place. ronald205nc would have gotten a more positive response if it had been.
He's had an entirely positive response, from me at least. I do hope he comes back and evangelises over me.

Putting something in General Chat means he'd like a general chat about it. Filing it in a specialist area would lead to an entirely different discussion.

I expect the mods decided that it was being generally discussed rather than prayed over or analysed.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:10 am

My post has gone

what did I do , who did I upset

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:13 am

Uncle Fester;662729 wrote: My post has gone

what did I do , who did I upset

Unc it could have something to do with when you posted it ..... post #17

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showt ... 756&page=2

Post by **spot** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:26 am

Uncle Fester;662729 wrote: My post has gone

what did I do , who did I upset

Almighty Tombstone...

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:29 am

spot;662750 wrote: Almighty Tombstone...

Do you think I should apologise , or take it like a man

:-2

Post by **spot** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:35 am

Uncle Fester;662752 wrote: Do you think I should apologise , or take it like a man

:-2
The next image has been censored by the system...

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:51 am

spot;662755 wrote: The next image has been censored by the system...

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:56 am

No one else look , this for Tombstone only , it is not a sight you will see often , Uncle being humble

:yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:24 am

The Holy Bible describes Heaven as a beautiful place where people live forever with no death, sorrow, sickness and pain. {Revelation 21:4}

Hell is described as a place of suffering forever for all those who are not saved. {Matthew 13:50}

No sign of any man-made control by fear mechanism here is there ? :yh_rotfl

Post by **spot** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:47 am

And most of humankind goes to the wrong place, apparently. Bloody incompetent Grand Architect of the Universe, if you ask me. How can anyone screw up that badly?

If the job gets re-advertised I'll give it a shot.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:29 am

spot;662821 wrote: And most of humankind goes to the wrong place, apparently. Bloody incompetent Grand Architect of the Universe, if you ask me. How can anyone screw up that badly?

If the job gets re-advertised I'll give it a shot.

God help us

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:48 am

The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington

chemistry mid term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the

professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course,

why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well.

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs

heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law, (gas

cools off when it expands and heats up when it is compressed) or some

variant. One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need

to know the rate that souls are moving into Hell and the rate they are

leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell,

it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.

As for how many souls are entering Hell, lets look at the different

religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that

if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there

are more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more

than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell.

With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls

in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of

the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the

temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has

to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter

Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until

all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in

Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my

Freshman year, "...that it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with

you.", and take into account the fact that I still have not succeeded in

having sexual relations with her, then, #2 cannot be true, and thus I am

sure that Hell is exothermic and will not freeze.

The student received the only "A" given.