Aussie's Paki's

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:00 am

Do citizens of the U.S. have a shortened nickname. I can't think of one off the top of my head so I suggest USA's as in yousa's.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:02 am

YZGI;669095 wrote: Do citizens of the U.S. have a shortened nickname. I can't think of one off the top of my head so I suggest USA's as in yousa's.

yes, we all get called Yanks. :rolleyes:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:04 am

buttercup;669073 wrote: I would not be in the slightest offended by it Red, its short for British which i am. I prefer by & large to class myself Scottish & would likely point that out to you in a polite manner, i wouldent be upset by it, its just preferance but im well aware that this is still the united kingdom therefore i'll also be classed british or brit until such time as we have independance.

Thanks, Butter.

I think most people don't want to offend others but just aren't aware of the preferable words to use. I recall asking Bryn once if I should say British or English....and since I just got up I can't remember which one he preferred (doh!) I think these discussions are a good thing to have...they open eyes for people like me who aren't that culturally aware.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:12 am

sunny104;669097 wrote: yes, we all get called Yanks. :rolleyes:

Does that term offend you? Does it offend all Americans or just some?

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:13 am

sunny104;669097 wrote: yes, we all get called Yanks. :rolleyes:
That seems to be more for the northeastern USA'S. I wouldn't consider a Texan for instance a yank. Would you?

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:15 am

buttercup;669104 wrote: Does that term offend you? Does it offend all Americans or just some?
I've never been offended by it, but I really don't consider myself a yank. If you want to call me a yank go right ahead or even a yankee doodle dandy.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:16 am

buttercup;669104 wrote: Does that term offend you? Does it offend all Americans or just some?

It doesn't offend me. Even "cracker" doesn't offend me. :wah:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:20 am

Butter, a question for you?

What is the difference between Scotch and Scottish?

I am thinking it's like Asian vs, Oriental. We say Asian when talking about the people and Oriental when talking about objects like rugs or furniture. We're not supposed to say "oriental people" anymore.

Is that how it is with Scottish and Scotch?

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:21 am

RedGlitter;669108 wrote: It doesn't offend me. Even "cracker" doesn't offend me. :wah:
Thats because you're closer to Melba Toast than cracker.:wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:24 am

YZGI;669106 wrote: That seems to be more for the northeastern USA'S. I wouldn't consider a Texan for instance a yank. Would you?

that's how it is here but people in other countries use the term to refer to all Americans....

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:38 am

YZGI;669112 wrote: Thats because you're closer to Melba Toast than cracker.:wah:

:wah:!!! I kinda like that YZ!! I ain't no cracker! I'm a melba toast! :wah:

Post by **spot** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:34 am

sunny104;669113 wrote: that's how it is here but people in other countries use the term to refer to all Americans....To a member of the Confederacy, a Northern carpetbagger was a Yankee. To the extent that there are still people emotionally attached to the Confederacy there are still Yankees out there.

To the rest of the world you're all Yanquis. There's a huge difference.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:37 am

spot;669166 wrote: To a member of the Confederacy, a Northern carpetbagger was a Yankee. To the extent that there are still people emotionally attached to the Confederacy there are still Yankees out there.

To the rest of the world you're all Yanquis. There's a huge difference.
Isn't Yanquis a Spanish version of Yankee? So now were all Latin Yanquis?

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:38 am

spot;669166 wrote: To a member of the Confederacy, a Northern carpetbagger was a Yankee. To the extent that there are still people emotionally attached to the Confederacy there are still Yankees out there.

To the rest of the world you're all Yanquis. There's a huge difference.

depends on how it's used or intended.

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:38 am

YZGI;669169 wrote: Isn't Yanquis a Spanish ersion of Yankee? So now were all Latin Yanquis?

^messedish

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:39 am

sunny104;669173 wrote: depends on how it's used or intended.

depends on how offened one wants to be I guess in the end.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:40 am

YZGI;669169 wrote: Isn't Yanquis a Spanish ersion of Yankee? So now were all Latin Yanquis?

if they use it it's meant in an offensive way.......

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:40 am

minks;669174 wrote: ^messedish
Uhhhhhh what?:-3:-2

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:41 am

minks;669175 wrote: depends on how offened one wants to be I guess in the end.

other people's small mindedness doesn't concern me one bit. :-6

Post by **spot** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:42 am

YZGI;669169 wrote: Isn't Yanquis a Spanish ersion of Yankee? So now were all Latin Yanquis?No, to the extent that it's true the outside world refers to you collectively as American Yanquis, not Latin anythings. There's a twist of humour in it, but it's a very black humour.

sunny104;669173 wrote: depends on how it's used or intended.Which bit? The confederacy bit, the southern bit or the world bit? I may well be wrong with all of it.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:42 am

I think I just created a new word....

:-3 :wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:43 am

minks;669175 wrote: depends on how offened one wants to be I guess in the end.
It seems to me USA's are hard to offend with nicknames, Now tell us our country sucks for whatever reason and look out. But you can call us whatever you like. We really don't care.

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:44 am

YZGI;669179 wrote: Uhhhhhh what?:-3:-2
meant I wasn't following, so said it was messed

and added the ish on the end

oh never mind to much explanation and it's not funny now, actually I am offended by you, dang it for get it, you blow, I am off, yeah that's it I am offended.

:wah:

I am "messing" with ya

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:44 am

spot;669182 wrote:

Which bit? The confederacy bit, the southern bit or the world bit? I may well be wrong with all of it.

if it's used by a spanish person then it's meant in an offensive way.

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:45 am

YZGI;669185 wrote: It seems to me USA's are hard to offend with nicknames, Now tell us our country sucks for whatever reason and look out. But you can call us whatever you like. We really don't care.

yeah us to I don't even know if there is an offensive name for us ahahaha Most people don't even know who we are, we may as well be Rhode Island :wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:47 am

YZGI;669185 wrote: It seems to me USA's are hard to offend with nicknames, Now tell us our country sucks for whatever reason and look out. But you can call us whatever you like. We really don't care.

that doesn't bother me much either, I know they're all just jealous.........:yh_tong2 :yh_peace

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:47 am

minks;669187 wrote: meant I wasn't following, so said it was messed

and added the ish on the end

oh never mind to much explanation and it's not funny now, actually I am offended by you, dang it for get it, you blow, I am off, yeah that's it I am offended.

:wah:

I am "messing" with ya

Oh I see I mis spelled, I left the "V" out of version I will correct. Thanks:D

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:48 am

sunny104;669191 wrote: that doesn't bother me much either, I know they're all just jealous.........:yh_tong2 :yh_peace

yeah cause ya got the best darn neighbors on top of ya

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:49 am

minks;669194 wrote: yeah cause ya got the best darn neighbors on top of ya

yep, we just have to put up with your moose breath!

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:49 am

minks;669194 wrote: yeah cause ya got the best darn neighbors on top of ya

Yeah Minks I like our hat, Sometimes our beard gets a little messy though.:wah:

Post by **spot** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:50 am

sunny104;669188 wrote: if it's used by a spanish person then it's meant in an offensive way.Why would a Spanish person ever express himself offensively toward an American? I thought US foreign policy toward Central and South America was invariably benign and helpful. Is that really where Yanqui comes from?

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:51 am

YZGI;669196 wrote: Yeah Minks I like our hat, Sometimes our beard gets a little messy though.:wah:

they have trimmers for that!

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:51 am

Awwwww feel the love :p:wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:52 am

spot;669198 wrote: Why would a Spanish person ever express himself offensively toward an American? I thought US foreign policy toward Central and South America was invariably benign and helpful. Is that really where Yanqui comes from?

why you gotta axe me hard questions??

*sunny faints*

Post by **spot** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:54 am

sunny104;669201 wrote: why you gotta axe me hard questions??

*sunny faints*

Quick someone! Fetch a mint julep!

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:58 am

spot;669204 wrote: Quick someone! Fetch a mint julep!

ok, I'll try.

yanqui is the spanish word for yankee but if used towards an American it would be meant in an offensive way.

um, as for the rest of it, I dunno...I would assume no matter what the situatuations are between places not everyone is going to be 100 % happy with everyone else.

did I make any sense?

I seem to be confusing everyone here today.

now then! I believe I have broken something in my frontal lobe and must go in search of nourishment, caffeine and tobacco.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:03 am

spot;669198 wrote: Why would a Spanish person ever express himself offensively toward an American? I thought US foreign policy toward Central and South America was invariably benign and helpful. Is that really where Yanqui comes from?
First off Spot, they feel we took some land away from them, and I think that is where Yanqui comes form, I've only noticed a derisive tone in the word Yanqui from mexicans. Maybe thats why the British call us Yanks also. We yanked this land away from you and we yanked some Mexican land.:wah:

Post by **spot** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:06 am

sunny104;669210 wrote: now then! I believe I have broken something in my frontal lobe and must go in search of nourishment, caffeine and tobacco. :DI did no such thing! I might have loosened your accessories a bit too much, helping you recover from fainting. Buttons and things.

The other word for an American is a Merkin on account of the way they mangle vowels.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:09 am

YZGI;669214 wrote: First off Spot, they feel we took some land away from them, and I think that is where Yanqui comes form, I've only noticed a derisive tone in the word Yanqui from mexicans. Maybe thats why the British call us Yanks also. We yanked this land away from you and we yanked some Mexican land.:wah:It's a minor point, but we retained most of it. The US took the smaller tranche by the time all the border adjustments were finished and the natives settled on reservations. I'm quite satisfied with how much of the continent abandoned the monarchy and how much stayed loyal.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 am

I am now proclaiming Usa (pronounced yousa) our new national nickname. Now don't offend me by calling me a Merikan.:wah:

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:35 am

YZGI;669214 wrote: First off Spot, they feel we took some land away from them, and I think that is where Yanqui comes form, I've only noticed a derisive tone in the word Yanqui from mexicans. Maybe thats why the British call us Yanks also. We yanked this land away from you and we yanked some Mexican land.:wah:

we never owned it ,those red indians did :p:p

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:39 am

jimbo;669233 wrote: we never owned it ,those red indians did :p:p
The Indians did not have the concept of ownership. They would have asked you how you can own a tree, or the wind. The land was there for their use. Thats why they took care of it.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:43 am

YZGI;669240 wrote: The Indians did not have the concept of ownership. They would have asked you how you can own a tree, or the wind. The land was there for their use. Thats why they took care of it.

good point .... i wish they still owned it and ours :-6

what is going to be left for our granchildrens grandchildren

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:46 am

RedGlitter;669111 wrote: Butter, a question for you?

What is the difference between Scotch and Scottish?

I am thinking it's like Asian vs, Oriental. We say Asian when talking about the people and Oriental when talking about objects like rugs or furniture. We're not supposed to say "oriental people" anymore.

Is that how it is with Scottish and Scotch?

There is no difference. Although the more pretentious of my brethren will tell you scotch is the drink and sottish the people. Both used to be used to describe the people of Scotland.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:27 pm

YZGI;669185 wrote: It seems to me USA's are hard to offend with nicknames, Now tell us our country sucks for whatever reason and look out. But you can call us whatever you like. We really don't care.

:D That's exactly how I feel. Call me cracker or arrogant American and it's okay but insult my country and I get hot.

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:37 pm

RedGlitter;669050 wrote: I have to admit that I didn't know Brit was offensive.

It is offensive which is why I use it. *Hastening to add, I only use it in specific circumstances - such as when some eejit calls me a Sweaty*

Nota bene: I have never considered myself to be British.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:46 pm

jimbo;669244 wrote: good point .... i wish they still owned it and ours :-6

what is going to be left for our granchildrens grandchildren

Out here they own a great deal of the land. And even part of the river, which they charge non-Indians to use. I haven't been in the river since I was 22 because I will not pay the tribe for what God gave all of us. I'd like to know who had the land before they did. There's always someone to have come before. And can we talk about litter? Our tribe is notorious for leaving trash around. Plastic bags, food wrappers, beer bottles. Just chuck it out the window as you go by. I've seen too much negativity to continue to buy into that stewards of the land bit. I think that left with Iron Eyes Cody.

gmc;669247 wrote: There is no difference. Although the more pretentious of my brethren will tell you scotch is the drink and sottish the people. Both used to be used to describe the people of Scotland.

Thanks Chookie. I've been unsure if I was saying the right thing or not.

dunkin · Post by **dunkin** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:02 pm

I love this song & the childrens choir who sing it.

This is what we Aussies are.

Some of you may have heard it on TV as an add for QANTAS Airlines.

I am / We are - Australian

[1]

I came from the dreamtime from the dusty red soil plains

I am the ancient heart, the keeper of the flame

I stood upon the rocky shore

I watched the tall ships come

For forty thousand years I'd been the first Australian.

[2]

I came upon the prison ship bowed down by iron chains.

I cleared the land, endured the lash and waited for the rains.

I'm a settler.

I'm a farmer's wife on a dry and barren run

A convict then a free man I became Australian.

[3]

I'm the daughter of a digger who sought the mother lode

The girl became a woman on the long and dusty road

I'm a child of the depression

I saw the good times come

I'm a bushy, I'm a battler

I am Australian

[chorus]

We are one, but we are many

And from all the lands on earth we come

We share a dream and sing with one voice:

I am, you are, we are Australian

I am, you are, we are Australian.

[4]

I'm a teller of stories

I'm a singer of songs

I am Albert Namatjira

I paint the ghostly gums

I am Clancy on his horse

I'm Ned Kelly on the run

I'm the one who waltzed Matilda

I am Australian

[5]

I'm the hot wind from the desert

I'm the black soil of the plains

I'm the mountains and the valleys

I'm the drought and flooding rains

I am the rock, I am the sky

The rivers when they run

The spirit of this great land

I am Australian

[chorus]

We are one, but we are many

And from all the lands on earth we come

We share a dream and sing with one voice:

I am, you are, we are Australian

I am, you are, we are Australian.

Ali. · Post by **Ali.** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:38 pm

dunkin, I get goose bumps evertime I hear or read that song,by the seekers as well.Its taken us a while but we aussies are becoming more patritic by the minit,which is very good.Red we are the same here call me any name u want It dosnt bother me but don't knock our country.Im a very proud aussie.Spot I don't think it was us who called the english limey's I think that was an american term for them,please correct me if Im wrong.I still dont think a word should upset people, its the way it is said,and the perception of the person that its being said to.Spot do u take offense to being called a taffy.I am not keen on being called a colonial but again its only a name its the intension.Dose that sound right.lol

dunkin · Post by **dunkin** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:56 pm

Ali.;669644 wrote: .Red we are the same here call me any name u want It dosnt bother me but don't knock our country.Im a very proud aussie

I agree 200%