tips for musiclover going to america

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:18 am

well our hero seems pretty determined

has any one got any tips

save up loads obvious

try to get a job lined up before you go

work permit/visa needs looking into

any one else got any tips

oh and this buddy

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:24 am

and this

http://www.etravelergear.com/200amtalhelt.html

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:28 am

this could help

http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/a0b91/cd624/

minks · Post by **minks** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:33 am

yes make friends in America and stay with them to save money hehehehe

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:34 am

Learn how to use a gun....mace?

I am trying not to be negative, but from a person that lives near Washington DC and has only been to NYC twice in my life and ONLY during the day...

I would be as prepared as possible. LOTS of Money, job and apartment lined up are good starters. Not to mention to make sure where you are going to be living in relation to your job/shopping and transportation for all of it.

Do I sound like a Mom???

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:37 am

WonderWendy3;681659 wrote: Learn how to use a gun....mace?

I am trying not to be negative, but from a person that lives near Washington DC and has only been to NYC twice in my life and ONLY during the day...

I would be as prepared as possible. LOTS of Money, job and apartment lined up are good starters. Not to mention to make sure where you are going to be living in relation to your job/shopping and transportation for all of it.

Do I sound like a Mom???

while i was in NY

i actually saw a guy get mugged by eight guys from a window of a bus no one did anything it was pretty scarey

i will not say any more before i'm accused of being racist

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:39 am

Hi Darren,

My best advice for you is to save up and take a holiday in NY. Walk around the city and see how people really live and work there. I know how much you want to live in NY, but you've never been there. You might hate it and have burnt all your bridges back home.

When I was your age I wanted to live in Ireland. But, after visiting every year in all seasons I realized that I wouldn't be happy there. I'd miss home and the weather was always cold, damp, rainy and windy. I still visit Ireland often as part of my close family and friends live there, but there's no place like home.

Maybe one day I would like to live in Florida. That's why I'm researching it now....looking at all the different areas and spending time there to see if I would really like to live there. I just spent 5 weeks there this summer to scope out areas.

Of course, you shouldn't give up your dreams, but NY is outrageously expensive and housing is hard to find, sometimes impossible. You'd probably end up living in one of the suburbs of NY.

Think about it carefully.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:43 am

Kathy Ellen;681663 wrote: Hi Darren,

My best advice for you is to save up and take a holiday in NY. Walk around the city and see how people really live and work there. I know how much you want to live in NY, but you've never been there. You might hate it and have burnt all your bridges back home.

When I was your age I wanted to live in Ireland. But, after visiting every year in all seasons I realized that I wouldn't be happy there. I'd miss home and the weather was always cold, damp, rainy and windy. I still visit Ireland often as part of my close family and friends live there, but there's no place like home.

Maybe one day I would like to live in Florida. That's why I'm researching it now....looking at all the different areas and spending time there to see if I would really like to live there. I just spent 5 weeks there this summer to scope out areas.

Of course, you shouldn't give up your dreams, but NY is outrageously expensive and housing is hard to find, sometimes impossible. You'd probably end up living in one of the suburbs of NY.

Think about it carefully.

fantastic post kathy :-6

its not just that you have to contend with ,every one you know is 3500 miles away ,the food is different ,i cant get my americanised daughter to eat any food here she says it tastes horrible ... did you find that kathy ??

the sense of humour is soo different

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:49 am

not including the flight

just how much or how little could darren go to NYC for a week

hotels

going out

food

taxi's

what else

would a thousand bucks do it £500 our money

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:50 am

Hey Jim,

Good to see ya. No, I didn't find the food in Ireland or the UK terrible. I thought it was quite good. My relatives cook simply with lots of homemade goodies. Everything I've eaten in Ireland has been fresh, tasty and comforting. When I wanted gourmet foods I went to upscale restaurants.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:56 am

i mussay i loved new york

every one was really nice to me once i adjusted to the sense of humour i made some good friends

i found the food good but different

every one was more than friendly

ow come on home meet my folks they like the beatles

my gran lives in nottingham do you know her ??

the thing that i found strange every one thought i was australian coz of my accent i found the only way people could understand me was if i spoke like prince charles when i came home after a couple of years my mates were crying with laughter at my plummy accent :-5:-5

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:02 am

Kathy Ellen;681663 wrote: Hi Darren,

My best advice for you is to save up and take a holiday in NY. Walk around the city and see how people really live and work there. I know how much you want to live in NY, but you've never been there. You might hate it and have burnt all your bridges back home.

When I was your age I wanted to live in Ireland. But, after visiting every year in all seasons I realized that I wouldn't be happy there. I'd miss home and the weather was always cold, damp, rainy and windy. I still visit Ireland often as part of my close family and friends live there, but there's no place like home.

Maybe one day I would like to live in Florida. That's why I'm researching it now....looking at all the different areas and spending time there to see if I would really like to live there. I just spent 5 weeks there this summer to scope out areas.

Of course, you shouldn't give up your dreams, but NY is outrageously expensive and housing is hard to find, sometimes impossible. You'd probably end up living in one of the suburbs of NY.

Think about it carefully.

Awesome points Kathy...exactly WHAT I menat....:wah:

I think visiting would be a great idea first, before taking the plunge....to me it's just a BIG scarey expensive city...but I know that MANY people love it there, and don't want to be a gloomy gus...so unlike me...ha ha ha....

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:05 am

Geeze Jim,

That's a tough question. How much money you would need in NY would depend on your life style. It is absolutely possible to visit NY on a budget. You would have to research the net for good buys. If you type in NY on a budget, you'll find tons of places to sleep, eat and drink. Airline prices also depend on seasons. If Darren came with a mate they could share expenses.

It's almost impossible to stay in one of my favorite hotels during Christmas and holidays. Unless you book a year ahead of time, they're booked.

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:04 pm

Wow this thread is a surprise :wah: but thank you to everyone whos shared adivce :-6 i did originaly think about visting first but non mf my friends or family want to go their and it would be abit sad me going their by myself

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:06 pm

Musiclover89;681730 wrote: Wow this thread is a surprise :wah: but thank you to everyone whos shared adivce :-6 i did originaly think about visting first but non mf my friends or family want to go their and it would be abit sad me going their by myself

hey buddy it might be a whole lot sadder living there on your own:(

i got dreadfully home sick

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:12 pm

jimbo;681732 wrote: hey buddy it might be a whole lot sadder living there on your own:(

i got dreadfully home sick

If i lived on my own i would kinda like it at first all the pece and quite of your own house :wah: but i would like to have a room mate just so i can have some Compony

i don't want to be in a serious relitionship yet

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:27 pm

I LOVE New York!!! One of my favourite cities. My youngest daughter at about age 16 had one aim only - to go there, any way she could, as soon as she could. Her older sister had run off to Europe the previous year, so she had her head full of exotic tales too. New York is a BIG CITY - and my youngest daughter had at that stage grown up pretty much in a country town. New York is pounding with energy and can eat newbies for breakfast. You need a plan and back up, experience and prospects.

In the end, I decided to turn R's dream into a reality. I took her to New York in the long holidays in the middle of her final College year. She was 17. She LOVED New York, but she is a bright cookie, and realised that she wasn't quite ready to make it on her own there. She finished her schooling and got her media qualifications, moved first to Sydney to work in television, then on to London. In December she's relocating to Paris. The headquarters of MTV are in New York, so who knows... she's 23 now, and if she does go there, she will be ready. (And I hope she has a spare room for me.. otherwise Kathy, I'm commuting from NJ, okay?)

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:25 am

ML is moving to the states ? Glad to have him ! The chicks will love your accent. Its sure to get you laid. Work that. Use it to your advantage. Lay it on heavy. Tell them your a descendant of Braveheart then do some flips and twirl around alot. That sir is my top shelf advice. Good luck. :-6

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:06 am

Nomad;681984 wrote: ML is moving to the states ? Glad to have him ! The chicks will love your accent. Its sure to get you laid. Work that. Use it to your advantage. Lay it on heavy. Tell them your a descendant of Braveheart then do some flips and twirl around alot. That sir is my top shelf advice. Good luck. :-6

:wah: that cracked me up but anyway back on Topic.I am a little confused about getting work visas/permits could anyone give some tips how to get hold of them?

saffy · Post by **saffy** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:12 am

Do you live on your own at the moment?

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:19 am

saffy;681997 wrote: Do you live on your own at the moment?

No i stay with my Mum

saffy · Post by **saffy** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:32 am

Maybe the first stage before jumping in with 2 feet and moving to NY would be to live on your own in your home town for a trial period to see if you can cope with your support system around you?

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:36 am

Musiclover89;681995 wrote: :wah: that cracked me up but anyway back on Topic.I am a little confused about getting work visas/permits could anyone give some tips how to get hold of them?

Tips ? Sure !

Very popular tourist destination and just an all around one stop shop.

This place will get you where you need to go.

http://fortressnyc.com/?gclid=CK2vi4jlg ... WAodJXL5Kg

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:23 am

saffy;682000 wrote: Maybe the first stage before jumping in with 2 feet and moving to NY would be to live on your own in your home town for a trial period to see if you can cope with your support system around you?

I have lived on my own for a few days while my Mum was in Hospital and i think i done ok i done all the dishes cooked my dinner washed clothes e.t.c

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:33 am

If you're low on cash, you can buy a case of Ramen Noodles for about $6.

Buy stuff at the "dollar stores," it's a lot cheaper. Like toiletries and detergent.

They make books for this sort of thing; I'm going to go hunt some down for you. Will be back with what I find.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:02 pm

RedGlitter;682049 wrote: If you're low on cash, you can buy a case of Ramen Noodles for about $6.

Buy stuff at the "dollar stores," it's a lot cheaper. Like toiletries and detergent.

They make books for this sort of thing; I'm going to go hunt some down for you. Will be back with what I find.

Like the Rough Guide to New York City?

A very good suggestion.

Definitely try before you buy - jump in with both feet at your own peril

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:04 pm

Bryn Mawr;682161 wrote: Like the Rough Guide to New York City?

A very good suggestion.

Definitely try before you buy - jump in with both feet at your own peril

try before you buy eh well all day i've been thinking about visting once i finish my College course even if its by myself i'll still see what its like

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:29 pm

I have 3 brothers that are now living in the States, entry to the country is very hard unless visiting. My brother that went to New York 2 years ago, had to have a job, be able to support himself, have savings (thousands) and have a extensive medical. America have got it so right, I wish our immigration system was as strict.

Darren a few nights alone while your Mum was in hospital is totally different to going to a different country, as i'm sure you know.

It is so good to have ambition and dreams, but I think Pam gave an excellent reply, you need to finish college, get a job and gain experience, live alone paying your own way, by the time you have done all of this, you will hopefully ready to head to the big apple.:-6

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:10 pm

SuzyB;682176 wrote: I have 3 brothers that are now living in the States, entry to the country is very hard unless visiting. My brother that went to New York 2 years ago, had to have a job, be able to support himself, have savings (thousands) and have a extensive medical. America have got it so right, I wish our immigration system was as strict.

Darren a few nights alone while your Mum was in hospital is totally different to going to a different country, as i'm sure you know.

It is so good to have ambition and dreams, but I think Pam gave an excellent reply, you need to finish college, get a job and gain experience, live alone paying your own way, by the time you have done all of this, you will hopefully ready to head to the big apple.:-6

Party pooper !

Whats the worst that could happen ?

I mean aside from getting scooped up by the Jamaican Young White Persons Sex Slave Org. (JYWPSSO) and being sold to old white men who have their way with him and his only pay is a ham sandwich at the end of the day ?

Besides that ?

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:46 pm

Nomad;682200 wrote: Party pooper !

Whats the worst that could happen ?

I mean aside from getting scooped up by the Jamaican Young White Persons Sex Slave Org. (JYWPSSO) and being sold to old white men who have their way with him and his only pay is a ham sandwich at the end of the day ?

Besides that ?

Don't sugar coat it Nomad.....really.......geesh...

JacksDad · Post by **JacksDad** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:04 pm

The Gardens Gnomad is not far off.

NYC is rough.

It's beautiful and alive. Truly The City That Never Sleeps.

But I've seen some scary things there. From personally being mugged to a bloody Mafia assassination.

If you're serious about the move without the visit, ML, try Hoboken, New Jersey. It's a nice little artsy college town right on the Hudson River. You can ferry over to The City any time without all the Street Hassle.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:09 pm

JacksDad;682219 wrote: The Gardens Gnomad is not far off.

NYC is rough.

It's beautiful and alive. Truly The City That Never Sleeps.

But I've seen some scary things there. From personally being mugged to a bloody Mafia assassination.

If you're serious about the move without the visit, ML, try Hoboken, New Jersey. It's a nice little artsy college town right on the Hudson River. You can ferry over to The City any time without all the Street Hassle.

Good advice lots of cross dressing and hermaphrodite action in Hoboken.

JacksDad · Post by **JacksDad** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:31 pm

Nomad;682223 wrote: Good advice lots of cross dressing and hermaphrodite action in Hoboken.

That would be the least of his worries.

And they're not really hermaphrodites. They're just trannies.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:00 am

almostfamous;682329 wrote: Realistic is what Nomad was being. Seriously, you don't know what a work permit entails?? But you're saving to move "3500 miles" away?? I'm sorry but someone should be very real with you and break it down. If you want facts they're all over the net, check any crime mapper of choice and you will see the New York is not a very safe or clean place to live. It's glammed up by the celebrities that live in it but you have to be as rich as they are to survive there.

That city is not all that it is made to be by way of tv, internet, whatever. NY has no appeal to me whatsoever except for a day-visit to the twin towers site. .. I am by no means trying to be overly harsh with you but would hate for you to fall victim to some of the cruelties that exist out there. Like pinky said, in your country it's not a life threatening ordeal to tell a bum to go fk hisself but here, PSH, YOU DON'T MAKE EYE CONTACT! Bottom line, I lived in Memphis (will be again in 2 weeks) .. I know about crime.

If you're hellbent on it you need to build a network of people in NY, find a forum dedicated to the state. I'm sure there's one out there. Had I not joined a forum specifically on St. Thomas, I would have pretty well blindly moved to the Virgin Islands recently but after talking to locals and realizing that the rate of pay was ridiculous in comparison to the cost of living; which was 33% higher than here, I bowed out.

In a nut shell, it's a very dangerous city to be in alone. If you have REAL friends there it would be much easier. You have to watch out for fake people that have ulterior motives. I'm just worried you might fall into the wrong crowds. When "Edge" gets back from basic I'll let him tell you about living on the streets of NY for almost 2 years. And he had a job making $16 an hour but was still homeless. It's a big decision, please be careful. K, I'll turn my mommy voice off now.:rolleyes: :-4

Blame Wendy, she's rubbin off on me

thats about how i saw it AF

good post by the way ,so what are you saying to ML bottom line go but not till your rich and famous or till you make friends with loads of yorkers with guns ...but even then dont make eye contact :-3:wah:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:22 am

You might look at this book, ML....

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:07 am

my husband moved here when he was 22. His first stop was NYC and he stayed in a hostel for 2 weeks. You could look into hostels in NYC, it would save you money at first and give you a safe place to stay while you have a chance to find a more permanent place.

I'm not sure about work permits and all that, why don't you call the US Embassy there and find out what you can do? I think they can answer questions online, too.

Best wishes! :-6

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:26 am

Yeah! A hostel would be a good idea Darren! You'd have a "fall back" place to come home to and people to associate with while you learned the ropes.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:33 am

almostfamous;682329 wrote: Realistic is what Nomad was being. Seriously, you don't know what a work permit entails?? But you're saving to move "3500 miles" away?? I'm sorry but someone should be very real with you and break it down. If you want facts they're all over the net, check any crime mapper of choice and you will see the New York is not a very safe or clean place to live. It's glammed up by the celebrities that live in it but you have to be as rich as they are to survive there.

That city is not all that it is made to be by way of tv, internet, whatever. NY has no appeal to me whatsoever except for a day-visit to the twin towers site. .. I am by no means trying to be overly harsh with you but would hate for you to fall victim to some of the cruelties that exist out there. Like pinky said, in your country it's not a life threatening ordeal to tell a bum to go fk hisself but here, PSH, YOU DON'T MAKE EYE CONTACT! Bottom line, I lived in Memphis (will be again in 2 weeks) .. I know about crime.

If you're hellbent on it you need to build a network of people in NY, find a forum dedicated to the state. I'm sure there's one out there. Had I not joined a forum specifically on St. Thomas, I would have pretty well blindly moved to the Virgin Islands recently but after talking to locals and realizing that the rate of pay was ridiculous in comparison to the cost of living; which was 33% higher than here, I bowed out.

In a nut shell, it's a very dangerous city to be in alone. If you have REAL friends there it would be much easier. You have to watch out for fake people that have ulterior motives. I'm just worried you might fall into the wrong crowds. When "Edge" gets back from basic I'll let him tell you about living on the streets of NY for almost 2 years. And he had a job making $16 an hour but was still homeless. It's a big decision, please be careful. K, I'll turn my mommy voice off now.

Blame Wendy, she's rubbin off on me :wah:
I thought I heard something REALLY familiar!!

Well said, I'm...so....sniff sniff....proud.....:yh_clap:yh_worshp

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:57 am

sunny104;682420 wrote: my husband moved here when he was 22. His first stop was NYC and he stayed in a hostel for 2 weeks. You could look into hostels in NYC, it would save you money at first and give you a safe place to stay while you have a chance to find a more permanent place.

I'm not sure about work permits and all that, why don't you call the US Embassy there and find out what you can do? I think they can answer questions online, too.

Best wishes! :-6

I never thought about Hostles thanks for that Sunny and sorry for being Nosey but how long did your Husband stay in a Hostel before he got his own place?

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:11 am

Musiclover89;682442 wrote: I never thought about Hostles thanks for that Sunny and sorry for being Nosey but how long did your Husband stay in a Hostel before he got his own place?

he only spent 2 weeks in NY. He spent about 3-4 months traveling the US and staying in hostels in every place until we met in Chicago.

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:14 am

sunny104;682444 wrote: he only spent 2 weeks in NY. He spent about 3-4 months traveling the US and staying in hostels in every place until we met in Chicago.

Oh cool i was doing a search for Hostels and its quite cheap $25.00 i don't know if that was for a week or per night but its still an ok price

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:56 am

Musiclover89;682445 wrote: Oh cool i was doing a search for Hostels and its quite cheap $25.00 i don't know if that was for a week or per night but its still an ok price

i think thats per hour mate :-3:-3

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:58 am

Musiclover89;682445 wrote: Oh cool i was doing a search for Hostels and its quite cheap $25.00 i don't know if that was for a week or per night but its still an ok price

that'd be the daily price, they should all be somewhere in the 20-30 dollar range.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:59 am

jimbo;682520 wrote: i think thats per hour mate :-3:-3

they're not those kind of places, Jimbo!

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:04 am

sunny104;682522 wrote: they're not those kind of places, Jimbo!

well you would know :wah::wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:05 am

jimbo;682525 wrote: well you would know :wah::wah:

:wah: