flopstock;970464 wrote: I have zero problem with it... I was a mother at 19 and married at 8 months the first time... the last time I was 41 and unmarried...
Zero problem with pregnancy at any age..
Jumbo problems with finding it more important to be vice president then to protect that child as much as possible from the crap that girl's having to put up with right now!
Well, at least she wouldn't be the first politician to resign from becoming vice president.
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I do have a problem with a pregnancy at a young age. Now - 2008..??
Certainly a politicians daughters.
Issue of Pro-Life is one thing
Knowing what your High School Age Daughter is doing ? making sure there's structure -rules - respect etc.. Goes back to the question - will this be overwhelming? 17 yrs. old - did Palin speak openly with her daughter @ sex and what NO PROTECTION.
Perhaps being Gov. has taken her away from the family - she's out of the loop.
Husband is a fisherman - he's out of the loop.
So, I'm assuming there's a Nanny bringing up the kids..? Is She Pro-Life ??
I actually see Sarah resigning from her VP nomination ? Possible?
What do you think ?
That'll be one for the History Books
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Certainly a politicians daughters.
Issue of Pro-Life is one thing
Knowing what your High School Age Daughter is doing ? making sure there's structure -rules - respect etc.. Goes back to the question - will this be overwhelming? 17 yrs. old - did Palin speak openly with her daughter @ sex and what NO PROTECTION.
Perhaps being Gov. has taken her away from the family - she's out of the loop.
Husband is a fisherman - he's out of the loop.
So, I'm assuming there's a Nanny bringing up the kids..? Is She Pro-Life ??
I actually see Sarah resigning from her VP nomination ? Possible?
What do you think ?
That'll be one for the History Books
Patsy
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Patsy Warnick;970565 wrote: I do have a problem with a pregnancy at a young age. Now - 2008..??
Certainly a politicians daughters.
Issue of Pro-Life is one thing
Knowing what your High School Age Daughter is doing ? making sure there's structure -rules - respect etc.. Goes back to the question - will this be overwhelming? 17 yrs. old - did Palin speak openly with her daughter @ sex and what NO PROTECTION.
Perhaps being Gov. has taken her away from the family - she's out of the loop.
Husband is a fisherman - he's out of the loop.
So, I'm assuming there's a Nanny bringing up the kids..? Is She Pro-Life ??
I actually see Sarah resigning from her VP nomination ? Possible?
What do you think ?
That'll be one for the History Books
Patsy
I think Palin is definately out of the loop regarding her teenage daughter's. She is also an advocate for abstinence before marriage. Somebody dropped the ball. I myself have an 18 yr old daughter and have always talked to her about this issue.
If Sarah resigns it won't be the first time a VP nominee has dropped out. George McGovern had a guy on his ticket and it came out that he was getting laser shock therapy.
Certainly a politicians daughters.
Issue of Pro-Life is one thing
Knowing what your High School Age Daughter is doing ? making sure there's structure -rules - respect etc.. Goes back to the question - will this be overwhelming? 17 yrs. old - did Palin speak openly with her daughter @ sex and what NO PROTECTION.
Perhaps being Gov. has taken her away from the family - she's out of the loop.
Husband is a fisherman - he's out of the loop.
So, I'm assuming there's a Nanny bringing up the kids..? Is She Pro-Life ??
I actually see Sarah resigning from her VP nomination ? Possible?
What do you think ?
That'll be one for the History Books
Patsy
I think Palin is definately out of the loop regarding her teenage daughter's. She is also an advocate for abstinence before marriage. Somebody dropped the ball. I myself have an 18 yr old daughter and have always talked to her about this issue.
If Sarah resigns it won't be the first time a VP nominee has dropped out. George McGovern had a guy on his ticket and it came out that he was getting laser shock therapy.
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valerie;970427 wrote: The principled leader you speak of with an at-risk pregancy flew to
Texas at 8 months along and climbed back on a plane to Alaska
apparently in active labor (her water broke?) instead of staying
where she was to seek medical care.
The principled leader you speak of left her 3 day old special needs baby
to go BACK TO WORK.
Yike! That is troubling to me. However it will make her a hero to some.
Texas at 8 months along and climbed back on a plane to Alaska
apparently in active labor (her water broke?) instead of staying
where she was to seek medical care.
The principled leader you speak of left her 3 day old special needs baby
to go BACK TO WORK.
Yike! That is troubling to me. However it will make her a hero to some.
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flopstock;970464 wrote: I have zero problem with it... I was a mother at 19 and married at 8 months the first time... the last time I was 41 and unmarried...
Zero problem with pregnancy at any age..
Jumbo problems with finding it more important to be vice president then to protect that child as much as possible from the crap that girl's having to put up with right now!
That's my point if there's nothing to be ashamed of then accusations go unwarranted...
She just quite simply needs to ignore them...
Zero problem with pregnancy at any age..
Jumbo problems with finding it more important to be vice president then to protect that child as much as possible from the crap that girl's having to put up with right now!
That's my point if there's nothing to be ashamed of then accusations go unwarranted...
She just quite simply needs to ignore them...
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K.Snyder;970612 wrote: That's my point if there's nothing to be ashamed of then accusations go unwarranted...
She just quite simply needs to ignore them...
You're not getting MY point K. They come knocking on MY door and I have a daughter going through this, I'm gonna make a point to stop and consider whether it is worth it to me for her to be thrust into the spotlight like this in an attempt to take me down politically.. Going after her personally - I say stand up and flip off the world... to know that your daughter is going to be thrown out there as a weapon... yikes! Obama and everyone else can say that families are not to be dragged in... we all know they will be..
Not worth it to me for a moment... for her, it apparently was. I'll judge her on that choice.
She just quite simply needs to ignore them...
You're not getting MY point K. They come knocking on MY door and I have a daughter going through this, I'm gonna make a point to stop and consider whether it is worth it to me for her to be thrust into the spotlight like this in an attempt to take me down politically.. Going after her personally - I say stand up and flip off the world... to know that your daughter is going to be thrown out there as a weapon... yikes! Obama and everyone else can say that families are not to be dragged in... we all know they will be..
Not worth it to me for a moment... for her, it apparently was. I'll judge her on that choice.
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Sheryl;966968 wrote: McCain/Palin. Obama's resume is weaker. This town in England is rooting For McCain. He seems strong & determined. To us, Obama looks indecisive as his reaction to Russia invading Georgia. Reagan showed the way to England for elder Presidents. They all laughed at him but the Reagan/Thatcher unison was stompin. Sadly, England does not have a Margret Thatcher at the ready to join forces with McCain. We have a weak livered Gordon Brown with a simpering David Cameron waiting to take his place. Maybe McCain can show Brown the way.
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Flop
we agree - and are saying the same thing.
It seems the family has taken a back seat to her Political career.
And the Family as a Unit agreed & 100% support for her to pursue her career. ?? Which is a huge adjustment for all.
When did Sarah find out her daughter was pregnant ? I never did hear that..??
It'll be interesting on how this plays out.
I think she'll resign .. You need leather skin for Politics..
Patsy
we agree - and are saying the same thing.
It seems the family has taken a back seat to her Political career.
And the Family as a Unit agreed & 100% support for her to pursue her career. ?? Which is a huge adjustment for all.
When did Sarah find out her daughter was pregnant ? I never did hear that..??
It'll be interesting on how this plays out.
I think she'll resign .. You need leather skin for Politics..
Patsy
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I am a white republican woman and intend to vote for Obama. Everyone seems to think that Obama doesn't have enough experience to be president. How much exp. did Geo.W. Bush have? How much did Dwight d. Eisenhower have? Serving on the senate does not seem to carry a lot of weight as there are a lot of x political canidates that did not make it that were senate members. It is what you have in your brain and the right people you have serving in your cabinet. A lot of Gov.'s have been duds as far as I'm concerned as presidents. As for Sarah Palin as a v.p. canidate, that is the biggest joke of the year. So she has five children, my mother had six and did not qualify her. So she won a beauty contest and was pres. of the PTA. Woo-Hoo. What are you people thinking about. Our country is going down the tube right now, I shudder to think what will happen if McCain would win then die while in office. Is Sarah going to run the pres. office like the P.T.A.? Just because a woman can stand before a crowd and with very strong demeanor and wave her hands does not convince me she is qualified.:-5
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qsducks;969865 wrote: I was trying to point out that Sarah Palin doesn't want sex ed taught in schools and is for abstinence only. And yes, it is not great to see your own 17yr old daughter pregnant. I do however, commend her for standing by her daughter. I don't however agree that the daughter should get married that young.
As for my daughter I have already discussed these issues with her and if she becomes involved with a guy I have stressed that I would like her to use her head and use birth control. Plus, if she came home pregnant she would have no problem getting support from my hubby & me. But at the end of the day, it is up to her and I would hope she would be smart enough to either have the baby and keep it or give it up for adoption.
:yh_clap :yh_clap
As for my daughter I have already discussed these issues with her and if she becomes involved with a guy I have stressed that I would like her to use her head and use birth control. Plus, if she came home pregnant she would have no problem getting support from my hubby & me. But at the end of the day, it is up to her and I would hope she would be smart enough to either have the baby and keep it or give it up for adoption.
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Hoss;970887 wrote: I apologize for asking, but do you have a news article or other evidence to prove that? I am sorry to challenge the information but there is so much floating around about her right now, I need to verify things before I speak on them. She's being attacked on all sides by ruthless left wingers I need to be sure it’s true.
And I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot and Biden's daughter was pg and unmarried, the right wingers wouldn't be having a field day?:mad:
And I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot and Biden's daughter was pg and unmarried, the right wingers wouldn't be having a field day?:mad:
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qsducks;970913 wrote: And I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot and Biden's daughter was pg and unmarried, the right wingers wouldn't be having a field day?:mad:
The very interesting and very telling thing is that it isn't the Democrats having a field day...it's the NEWS MEDIA. They are without a soul.:-5
The very interesting and very telling thing is that it isn't the Democrats having a field day...it's the NEWS MEDIA. They are without a soul.:-5
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I know one thing fer sure. Sarah Palin is THE ONLY vice presidential candidate I EVER wanted to see naked.:p
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qsducks;970913 wrote: And I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot and Biden's daughter was pg and unmarried, the right wingers wouldn't be having a field day?:mad:
I think you're right. You can bet your bottom dollar that if Obama's daughter were old enough to be pregnant, they'd throw his own words back in his face.
I think you're right. You can bet your bottom dollar that if Obama's daughter were old enough to be pregnant, they'd throw his own words back in his face.
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hoppy;970955 wrote: I know one thing fer sure. Sarah Palin is THE ONLY vice presidential candidate I EVER wanted to see naked.:p
I heard they have a bumper sticker: "Coldest State - Hottest Governor"
I heard they have a bumper sticker: "Coldest State - Hottest Governor"
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Clint;970954 wrote: The very interesting and very telling thing is that it isn't the Democrats having a field day...it's the NEWS MEDIA. They are without a soul.:-5
Ya know what drives the media ... advertising.
Know what drives advertising...readership, viewership or listener numbers.
So don't blame the media for giving us exactly what we ask for. The media outlets that don't, they aren't around anymore Clint. If this kind of crap wasn't what the American public was clammering for, it's not what would be served up to us.
It's us, the public- that have no soul left. The media never pretended to..
Ya know what drives the media ... advertising.
Know what drives advertising...readership, viewership or listener numbers.
So don't blame the media for giving us exactly what we ask for. The media outlets that don't, they aren't around anymore Clint. If this kind of crap wasn't what the American public was clammering for, it's not what would be served up to us.
It's us, the public- that have no soul left. The media never pretended to..
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hoppy;970955 wrote: I know one thing fer sure. Sarah Palin is THE ONLY vice presidential candidate I EVER wanted to see naked.:p
Why? Were you NOT around when Geraldine ran?
I don't know why I find your comment so demeaning, I just do. Unless of course you are a female... in which case I'm just creep-ed out even more....
Why? Were you NOT around when Geraldine ran?
I don't know why I find your comment so demeaning, I just do. Unless of course you are a female... in which case I'm just creep-ed out even more....
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flopstock;970692 wrote: You're not getting MY point K. They come knocking on MY door and I have a daughter going through this, I'm gonna make a point to stop and consider whether it is worth it to me for her to be thrust into the spotlight like this in an attempt to take me down politically.. Going after her personally - I say stand up and flip off the world... to know that your daughter is going to be thrown out there as a weapon... yikes! Obama and everyone else can say that families are not to be dragged in... we all know they will be..
Not worth it to me for a moment... for her, it apparently was. I'll judge her on that choice.
Would it influence your vote?
Not worth it to me for a moment... for her, it apparently was. I'll judge her on that choice.
Would it influence your vote?
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flopstock;970969 wrote: Ya know what drives the media ... advertising.
Know what drives advertising...readership, viewership or listener numbers.
So don't blame the media for giving us exactly what we ask for. The media outlets that don't, they aren't around anymore Clint. If this kind of crap wasn't what the American public was clammering for, it's not what would be served up to us.
It's us, the public- that have no soul left. The media never pretended to..
Ya Know...you are right and that's very sad.:-1
Know what drives advertising...readership, viewership or listener numbers.
So don't blame the media for giving us exactly what we ask for. The media outlets that don't, they aren't around anymore Clint. If this kind of crap wasn't what the American public was clammering for, it's not what would be served up to us.
It's us, the public- that have no soul left. The media never pretended to..
Ya Know...you are right and that's very sad.:-1
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Accountable;970974 wrote: Would it influence your vote?
yeah, i think it could. and it's not because she's a mom. I'd have a hard time casting my vote for any candidate, mom or dad, that would think that the political worlds need for them was more important then the need to shelter their own child from what these folks HAD TO HAVE KNOWN was coming.. what a colossal ego that takes..
and if they didn't know it was coming and coming soon.... they are too stupid for my vote anyways..
McCain needs to stay very very healthy, between now and November. If not, I'll find myself looking closer at the running mate then i might otherwise.
I'm a strange one though... I still have issues with bidens plagerism... unless I attached it to the wrong guy, way back when... every time i see him.. that flashes in my head...:-2
yeah, i think it could. and it's not because she's a mom. I'd have a hard time casting my vote for any candidate, mom or dad, that would think that the political worlds need for them was more important then the need to shelter their own child from what these folks HAD TO HAVE KNOWN was coming.. what a colossal ego that takes..
and if they didn't know it was coming and coming soon.... they are too stupid for my vote anyways..
McCain needs to stay very very healthy, between now and November. If not, I'll find myself looking closer at the running mate then i might otherwise.
I'm a strange one though... I still have issues with bidens plagerism... unless I attached it to the wrong guy, way back when... every time i see him.. that flashes in my head...:-2
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JAB;970998 wrote: Would you have the same problem if it were a male VP candidate in the same position?
actually my last post states flat out i'd have the same issue- i don't care what the sex of the candidate.
actually my last post states flat out i'd have the same issue- i don't care what the sex of the candidate.
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qsducks;970577 wrote: If Sarah resigns it won't be the first time a VP nominee has dropped out. George McGovern had a guy on his ticket and it came out that he was getting laser shock therapy.
There goes my 2012 bid.
There goes my 2012 bid.
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Nomad;971016 wrote: There goes my 2012 bid.
I thought you were just doing it for entertainment purposes baby? I don't think they can count that against you..:-6:D
I thought you were just doing it for entertainment purposes baby? I don't think they can count that against you..:-6:D
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JAB;971018 wrote: Sorry, didn't read read far enough ahead to see your last post. 
And yes, it was Biden that had the plagiarism problem. Twice in fact. Once while in law school......
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A961948260
....and once while running for President in '88.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/po ... /biden.htm
kinda makes me wonder how many times he wasn't caught, ya know?
And yes, it was Biden that had the plagiarism problem. Twice in fact. Once while in law school......
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A961948260
....and once while running for President in '88.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/po ... /biden.htm
kinda makes me wonder how many times he wasn't caught, ya know?
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For those like Fred Thompson that are broad brushing liberals as tasteless for talking about Palins daughter, the only ones I see talking about it are CNN.
They go on and on and on about how it shouldnt be an issue. Day and night. :rolleyes:
They go on and on and on about how it shouldnt be an issue. Day and night. :rolleyes:
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Accountable;970956 wrote: I think you're right. You can bet your bottom dollar that if Obama's daughter were old enough to be pregnant, they'd throw his own words back in his face.
Ain't that the truth.
Ain't that the truth.
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My daughter has posed some interesting questions regarding Palin's daughter.
Does this mean she will be dropping out of high school in her senior year?
And who is going to take care of the baby if she doesn't?
What does the daddy to be do for a living, besides blog on his Myspace account?
My 13 yr old daughter posed these questions to me tonight, so I though I would throw them out to you guys.
Does this mean she will be dropping out of high school in her senior year?
And who is going to take care of the baby if she doesn't?
What does the daddy to be do for a living, besides blog on his Myspace account?
My 13 yr old daughter posed these questions to me tonight, so I though I would throw them out to you guys.
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flopstock;970972 wrote: Why? Were you NOT around when Geraldine ran?
I don't know why I find your comment so demeaning, I just do. Unless of course you are a female... in which case I'm just creep-ed out even more....
It ain't demeaning to a good looking straight woman. Or a person with a sense of humor. Don't know what catagory you fall in.
I don't know why I find your comment so demeaning, I just do. Unless of course you are a female... in which case I'm just creep-ed out even more....
It ain't demeaning to a good looking straight woman. Or a person with a sense of humor. Don't know what catagory you fall in.
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qsducks;971053 wrote: My daughter has posed some interesting questions regarding Palin's daughter.
Does this mean she will be dropping out of high school in her senior year?
And who is going to take care of the baby if she doesn't?
What does the daddy to be do for a living, besides blog on his Myspace account?
My 13 yr old daughter posed these questions to me tonight, so I though I would throw them out to you guys.
I think we have an opportunity to take this crap fest and turn it into a learning experience for our kids.
Ask your daughter what she thinks will happen. Ask her if the answers would be different for the average girl in her school. Ask her if she thinks for one moment that this womans daughter thought this could happen to her and her boyfriend..
Ask her what she thinks of the fact that everyone, friends and strangers alike think they are entitled to judge this girl who didn't think it would happen to her and her parents.
Then ask her if she can be brave enough to ask for contraception before she gets herself into a similar situation. Ask her if she can be smart enough to talk to you before doing something that may have dire consequences in her future.
If nothing else good comes from this, I hope we talk with our own kids.
Does this mean she will be dropping out of high school in her senior year?
And who is going to take care of the baby if she doesn't?
What does the daddy to be do for a living, besides blog on his Myspace account?
My 13 yr old daughter posed these questions to me tonight, so I though I would throw them out to you guys.
I think we have an opportunity to take this crap fest and turn it into a learning experience for our kids.
Ask your daughter what she thinks will happen. Ask her if the answers would be different for the average girl in her school. Ask her if she thinks for one moment that this womans daughter thought this could happen to her and her boyfriend..
Ask her what she thinks of the fact that everyone, friends and strangers alike think they are entitled to judge this girl who didn't think it would happen to her and her parents.
Then ask her if she can be brave enough to ask for contraception before she gets herself into a similar situation. Ask her if she can be smart enough to talk to you before doing something that may have dire consequences in her future.
If nothing else good comes from this, I hope we talk with our own kids.
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hoppy;971062 wrote: It ain't demeaning to a good looking straight woman. Or a person with a sense of humor. Don't know what catagory you fall in.
Surprisingly enough.... you don't surprise me.. go figure..:rolleyes:
Surprisingly enough.... you don't surprise me.. go figure..:rolleyes:
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flopstock;971068 wrote: Surprisingly enough.... you don't surprise me.. go figure..:rolleyes:
Were'nt trying to ma'am.
Were'nt trying to ma'am.
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I just was making a general observation, not aimed at anyone in particular. Get your panties unbunched.
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Here we are on a thread dealing with the most important decision the US will make in the near future and it has been reduced to this. Is this what the selection process is going to be about? Is it going to be about the candidates or about their families? Is it about our future or a families most private problems?
If America wants mothers in the top jobs then America had better be willing to accept the problems that come with it. This wouldn't be a discussion if it was Mr. Palin who was Mayor, Governor then VP candidate.
Maybe the question about gender roles isn't as well resolved as everyone wants to pretend it is.
Strange to me that the liberals are the ones making an issue of this.
If America wants mothers in the top jobs then America had better be willing to accept the problems that come with it. This wouldn't be a discussion if it was Mr. Palin who was Mayor, Governor then VP candidate.
Maybe the question about gender roles isn't as well resolved as everyone wants to pretend it is.
Strange to me that the liberals are the ones making an issue of this.
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Clint;971077 wrote: Here we are on a thread dealing with the most important decision the US will make in the near future and it has been reduced to this. Is this what the selection process is going to be about? Is it going to be about the candidates or about their families? Is it about our future or a families most private problems?
If America wants mothers in the top jobs then America had better be willing to accept the problems that come with it. This wouldn't be a discussion if it was Mr. Palin who was Mayor, Governor then VP candidate.
Maybe the question about gender roles isn't as well resolved as everyone wants to pretend it is.
Strange to me that the liberals are the ones making an issue of this.
I really don't think this specific issue is about gender Clint. It's about a parent thinking about their kids before themselves. It happened to be a mother that made the choice to put political ambition above protecting her daughter. It could just as easily been biden.
You will never convince me that it didn't occur to anyone that idiots would attempt to make this daughters situation the talking point at the first available opportunity.
I do agree that the gender issue is totally unresolved as is the color issue. Those issues aren't resolved until the best men or women receive the votes they get because of their stand on issues rather then on the color of their skin or their gender. I think that Palin brings conservatives back to the McCain camp. She also brings the Hillary hardliners who can't forgive the democrats for not going female. I don't blame Palin for attracting those voters. I do have issues with voters that are that easily manipulated.
If America wants mothers in the top jobs then America had better be willing to accept the problems that come with it. This wouldn't be a discussion if it was Mr. Palin who was Mayor, Governor then VP candidate.
Maybe the question about gender roles isn't as well resolved as everyone wants to pretend it is.
Strange to me that the liberals are the ones making an issue of this.
I really don't think this specific issue is about gender Clint. It's about a parent thinking about their kids before themselves. It happened to be a mother that made the choice to put political ambition above protecting her daughter. It could just as easily been biden.
You will never convince me that it didn't occur to anyone that idiots would attempt to make this daughters situation the talking point at the first available opportunity.
I do agree that the gender issue is totally unresolved as is the color issue. Those issues aren't resolved until the best men or women receive the votes they get because of their stand on issues rather then on the color of their skin or their gender. I think that Palin brings conservatives back to the McCain camp. She also brings the Hillary hardliners who can't forgive the democrats for not going female. I don't blame Palin for attracting those voters. I do have issues with voters that are that easily manipulated.
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Clint
Your right - the gender issue isn't resolved
Most of this dirt on Palin is dug up by a Jealous FEMALE.
I think Palin looks like Julia L. Dryfuss.
I'd like to hear her out.
After all - we were willing to elect HILLARY for PRES., and look what she allowed.
Perhaps she was out of the LOOP too..
Patsy
Your right - the gender issue isn't resolved
Most of this dirt on Palin is dug up by a Jealous FEMALE.
I think Palin looks like Julia L. Dryfuss.
I'd like to hear her out.
After all - we were willing to elect HILLARY for PRES., and look what she allowed.
Perhaps she was out of the LOOP too..
Patsy
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P.S.
I also feel somewhat sorry for Sarah
She has five kids of her own, another baby on the way (daughters)
strapped with McCain
I mean, how many diapers can she change. ?
Depends
Patsy
I also feel somewhat sorry for Sarah
She has five kids of her own, another baby on the way (daughters)
strapped with McCain
I mean, how many diapers can she change. ?
Depends
Patsy
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yeh, Hoss
like I said Sarah will always be busy with diapers..
Patsy
like I said Sarah will always be busy with diapers..
Patsy
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hoppy;968336 wrote: I think Nicolas Sarkozy likes the USA and Bush. Anyway Hoss, euro's can't vote here so who cares what euro's like.
I like Nicolas's wife.
I like Nicolas's wife.
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hoppy;971062 wrote: It ain't demeaning to a good looking straight woman. Or a person with a sense of humor. Don't know what catagory you fall in.
Floppy's both, Hoppy. :yh_frustr
Floppy's both, Hoppy. :yh_frustr
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Patsy Warnick;971103 wrote: P.S.
I also feel somewhat sorry for Sarah
She has five kids of her own, another baby on the way (daughters)
strapped with McCain
I mean, how many diapers can she change. ?
Depends
Patsy
:wah: Oh you're bad. I didn't see that one coming at all. :wah:
I also feel somewhat sorry for Sarah
She has five kids of her own, another baby on the way (daughters)
strapped with McCain
I mean, how many diapers can she change. ?
Depends
Patsy
:wah: Oh you're bad. I didn't see that one coming at all. :wah:
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Accountable;971187 wrote: Floppy's both, Hoppy. :yh_frustr
I snapped again, didn't I? Sorry floppy, my original post was meant to be a joke. No harm intended.
Life can be tough when you are a cantankerous old fart with a hair trigger temper.
I snapped again, didn't I? Sorry floppy, my original post was meant to be a joke. No harm intended.
Life can be tough when you are a cantankerous old fart with a hair trigger temper.
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hoppy;971203 wrote: I snapped again, didn't I? Sorry floppy, my original post was meant to be a joke. No harm intended.
Life can be tough when you are a cantankerous old fart with a hair trigger temper.
#1
Don't ever apologize to me... it's not only a sign of weakness that I'll take advantage of in a heartbeat..:sneaky::D but worse it will make you stop and prettify your next post to me so that you are sure not to offend..:yh_sick
I don't see how I can be snarky and what I consider witty with you -if I dont' allow you the same space, don't you agree?
#2
I meant what I wrote.. I really don't know why I found that demeaning... stuff like that doesn't bother me at all usually..
#3
Us cantankerous old farts gotta stick together or these young politically correct kids kids will silence us...or worse- ignore us...:-4:-6
Life can be tough when you are a cantankerous old fart with a hair trigger temper.
#1
Don't ever apologize to me... it's not only a sign of weakness that I'll take advantage of in a heartbeat..:sneaky::D but worse it will make you stop and prettify your next post to me so that you are sure not to offend..:yh_sick
I don't see how I can be snarky and what I consider witty with you -if I dont' allow you the same space, don't you agree?
#2
I meant what I wrote.. I really don't know why I found that demeaning... stuff like that doesn't bother me at all usually..
#3
Us cantankerous old farts gotta stick together or these young politically correct kids kids will silence us...or worse- ignore us...:-4:-6
I expressly forbid the use of any of my posts anywhere outside of FG (with the exception of the incredibly witty 'get a room already' )posted recently.
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6