The Queen

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:45 am

Ok.

It got my attention.

It was an interesting behind the scenes glimpse into an odd and surreal entity that few really know about or get to see.

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pinkchick · Post by **pinkchick** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:52 am

Nomad;639294 wrote: Ok.

It got my attention.

It was an interesting behind the scenes glimpse into an odd and surreal entity that few really know about or get to see.

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I bought it recently...... Haven't got round to watching it yet.

I'm hoping it's good:D

The Rob · Post by **The Rob** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:40 am

It's fabulous. Trust me. Helen Mirren is marvelous, as is the cast as a whole.

SlipStream · Post by **SlipStream** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:34 am

less ya mean the rock band!

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:09 am

And what are your thoughts after watching the film on our Queen & the whole Diana scenario?

The Rob · Post by **The Rob** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:41 am

buttercup;639401 wrote: And what are your thoughts after watching the film on our Queen & the whole Diana scenario?

I think that traditions can become nooses by which ruling classes may hang themselves. I think the Queen may have come to realize this for Herself and so chose to capitulate to her people's wish to observe a demonstration of grief.

Of course, that's read from Mirren's portrayal of Her and the film's portrayal of the events. It would be naive to assume the screenplay is a literal translation.

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:55 pm

Unbelievable Nomad.... Its 8 pm and I will be popping The Queen into the cd player in the next few minutes........

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:21 pm

Sometimes, with these biopics, the real person has a small cameo role in the film.

In The People Vs. Larry Flynt, the real Larry Flynt had a brief role as a judge.

It would have been really cool if ER II was cast as a maid, or something.

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:37 am

Great scene between Liz and a gin soaked rather bleary eyed queen mum in the garden.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:10 am

Kathy Ellen;639736 wrote: I thought "The Queen" was beautifully done. I felt sorry for the Queen and Diana. They were 2 different generations that were so different. The Queen finally realized that times were changing and Diana was unloved by the Royalty. It was amazing to note how the Queen was more upset about the stag's death than Dianas. Also didn't realize that Tony Blair supported and understood the Queen's emotions at the end.

Diana was loved by a great many people in the uk for the work she done, she done no more or less than say Princess Anne but she was prettier so got more headline's.

Its true there was no love lost in royal circles & perhaps if Diana had been your daughter in law & you knew a bit more about her you would see the queen's point of view better Kathy. Diana & Sarah (fergie) brought a lot of problems for the monarchy. Its a shame she's dead but i had little time for her dramatics.

No need for flames Diana fans, its just my point of view.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:34 pm

Kathy Ellen :-4

Have a look at this link, i think you may find this book facinating

http://www.sallybedellsmith.com/princes ... /about.php

For the first time, a thorough analysis of Diana's character and temperament, leading to the conclusion that she may have suffered from one of the most elusive mental illnesses--the borderline personality disorder, which is characterized by a confused identity; sharp mood swings; extreme fear of rejection and abandonment; an inability to sustain relationships; persistent feelings of loneliness, boredom and emptiness; depression; and impulsive behavior such as binge eating and self-mutilation--all of which Diana experienced in her adult life severely and chronically, as indicated by her behavior, her own revelations, and insights offered by friends and family.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:41 pm

buttercup;639401 wrote: And what are your thoughts after watching the film on our Queen & the whole Diana scenario?

Is she really your Queen Scot girl ? Im thinking NO !

Scots are known for stealing pies but I didnt know you were resorting to this. :-5

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:54 pm

The Scottish National Party (SNP) says that the queen should continue to be head of state in an independent Scotland. Not that we are independant yet, as part of the UK yes she's my queen at this present time & looks like she will be for the forseeable future whatever happens with independance.

Source

http://www.centreforcitizenship.org/web ... 00172.html

Its midnight here im off to bed, bitch it out with you tomorrow

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:43 am

AussiePam;641047 wrote: the Queen is not even necessarily on our side in international matters - as was demonstrated a while back by her official support of a European country's nuclear tests in the South Pacific - events very much opposed by Australia and New Zealand - who were in the firing line.

Hi Pam

Could you provide me with a link to back this statement up, thanks :-6

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:23 am

Did Chonsi tell you this statement was fact? Ive never known the queen to speak out on such things, i shall pm her

Chonsi that is, not the queen lol

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:51 am

Kathy Ellen;639736 wrote: I thought "The Queen" was beautifully done. I felt sorry for the Queen and Diana. They were 2 different generations that were so different. The Queen finally realized that times were changing and Diana was unloved by the Royalty. It was amazing to note how the Queen was more upset about the stag's death than Dianas. Also didn't realize that Tony Blair supported and understood the Queen's emotions at the end.

You're phrasing that as though the film was true life rather than a fictionalised account showing the Director's predudice